From: Bruce D. Scott on
Joachim Parsch (sm(a)bunuel.franken.de) wrote:

: Maybe Bayern's additional European success tilted the balance.
: And you need a good guy <-> bad guy setup for medial purposes, so
: Gladbach had to take the role of the good guys.

Was any of this due to some particular personalities? Beckenbauer for
reasons already noted? Some glamour boy on Gladbach (note this is
before my football time, mostly)? Or some general dislike of Bayern
within Germany (this was after all the Franz Joseph Strauss time)?

: What's more important is the fact, that the opinion leader in German
: BL football back then was clearly the Sportschau (Sports TV at
: saturday 18:00). And the Sportschau was based in the West: K´┐Żln,
: Gladbach et.al. were the media darlings, while Bayern was simply
: from the wrong region of Germany (don't forget the everlasting
: quarrel inside ARD, between leftist WDR and stone-conservative BR).

That too, but if the main opinion would have been Koeln then Gladbach
would not be darlings :-)



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From: Bruce D. Scott on
ken.overton(a)gmail.com (ken.overton(a)gmail.com) wrote:
: On Feb 26, 4:55=A0am, hs...(a)der-ball-ist-rund.net (Sven Mischkies)
: wrote:
: > Instead they did what they could and
: > pulled one upset after another, thanks to their great coach and their
: > huge balls.

: The probability that they were doped to the gills kind of shoots down
: their underdog aura for me.


What probability? Just that they tried harder?



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From: Bruce D. Scott on
Benny (Benny(a)soccer-europe.com) wrote:
: > Subject : 10 most hated football teams
: > From : hsv83(a)der-ball-ist-rund.net

: > Because they are teh scum of the earth who buy success with money they
: > did not earn?

: Abramovich earned the money. He didn't run to the banks.

He was among the mob who appropriated Soviet public wealth via
connections in the Nomenklatura.

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From: Bruce D. Scott on
anders t (anthu_001(a)no_-_spam_.hotmail.com) wrote:
: Quoting Sven Mischkies in rec.sport.soccer:
: >ken.overton(a)gmail.com <ken.overton(a)gmail.com> wrote:
: >
: >> On Feb 26, 4:55 am, hs...(a)der-ball-ist-rund.net (Sven Mischkies)
: >> wrote:
: >> > Instead they did what they could and
: >> > pulled one upset after another, thanks to their great coach and their
: >> > huge balls.
: >>
: >> The probability that they were doped to the gills kind of shoots down
: >> their underdog aura for me.
: >
: >
: >Never heard of that. What do you have to back that theory up?

: The method to find EPO wasn't implemented until right after that EC.
: Unfortunately.

But what's your evidence that they doped?

All they did was show more heart. All the more unusual since Greek
teams are often the opposite.

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From: Sven Mischkies on
anders t <anthu_001(a)no_-_spam_.hotmail.com> wrote:

> But it was established back then that the Greeks ran up to
> 50% more during the games than the opponents.


Link?


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SM
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