From: Sven Mischkies on
Jesper Lauridsen <rorschak(a)sorrystofanet.dk> wrote:

> On 2010-02-26, Sven Mischkies <hsv83(a)der-ball-ist-rund.net> wrote:
> >
> > It should be Bayern always. Cynical football, ref decisions in their
> > favour (but that I guess is normal for a top team), buying players from
> > direct competitors, etc.
>
> This seasons ideal HSV lineup has 3-4 players bought from Bayern:
> Jansen, Trochowski, Ze Roberto and maybe Guerrero. Plus Jarolim who
> came via N?g.


All players who were not (anymore) good enough for Bayern, i.e. rejects.


> Bayern has 1-2 HSV players: Van Buyten and maybe Olic. Plus Butt who
> came via Leverkusen and Benfica.


Players who we would have loved to keep, but couldn't thanks to Bayern's
superior offers.


> And then there's recent transfers like Hummels to Dortmund, Baumjohann to
> Schalke and, above all, Kroos to Leverkusen. That last one could cost a
> championship.


Bayern hubris is so immense that they thought loaning out their top
talent to a EL challenger would not harm them. They did the same with
Lahm and Babbel. And you know it won't.

Do Manu or Chelski loan players to Spurs or Everton? Inter or Juve to
Lazio or Roma? Barca or Real to Valencia or Sevilla?

The other two players are rejects.


Ciao,
SM
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From: Benny on
> Subject : 10 most hated football teams
> From : hsv83(a)der-ball-ist-rund.net

> Because they are teh scum of the earth who buy success with money they
> did not earn?

Abramovich earned the money. He didn't run to the banks.


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From: Benny on
> Subject : 10 most hated football teams
> From : wanyikuli(a)gmail.com

> Early 90s weren't Red Star Belgrade and Olympic Marseille arguably
> better?

They didn't win 2 in a row and Marseille were bent.

> Also Milan got to avoid English teams, which is not to say they
wouldn't have won in 89 and 90 though.

They would have massacred the best English sides of that era.

> Henry couldn't hold a candle to Sheva or Kaka? Didn't Henry have one
> season where he had like over 20 goals and assists?

Yes he did but what has he done in Europe? His record in finals is
appalling.


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From: JK on
Benny wrote:
> > Subject : 10 most hated football teams
> > From : wanyikuli(a)gmail.com
>
> > Early 90s weren't Red Star Belgrade and Olympic Marseille arguably
> > better?
>
> They didn't win 2 in a row and Marseille were bent.

In the boardroom, but not on the field.

But Milan were better anyway, certainly for a longer period of time.


> > Also Milan got to avoid English teams, which is not to say they
> wouldn't have won in 89 and 90 though.
>
> They would have massacred the best English sides of that era.

Probably, since their rise also coincided with Liverpool's decline phase.

> > Henry couldn't hold a candle to Sheva or Kaka? Didn't Henry have one
> > season where he had like over 20 goals and assists?
>
> Yes he did but what has he done in Europe? His record in finals is
> appalling.


What was so great about Sheva in finals? Scoring the last pk in a 0-0
shootout over Juve? Meh.
From: Benny on
> Subject : 10 most hated football teams
> From : jknapp(a)oacpc.com

> In the boardroom, but not on the field.

Being roided up makes them as bent as Juve under Lippi.

> What was so great about Sheva in finals? Scoring the last pk in a 0-0
> shootout over Juve? Meh.

Of the five finals he played in for Milan he scored the winner in the
European Super Cup against Porto and one of the goals in the Italian Cup
final against Roma in 2003. 2/5 is a lot better than Henry's record.


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