From: Benny on
> Subject : 10 most hated football teams
> From : futbolmetrix(a)yahoo.com

> 1970s-1985: Juve builds a winning machine by buying the best young
Italian
> prospects from satellite clubs (Atalanta, Como, Cremonese). Milan is
a non
> factor

I guess you paid for Platini and Boniek with magic beans.

> 1986-1990: Berlusconi steps in, outspends everybody in Italy and
abroad, and
> builds a wunderteam (thanks also to the critical contribution of some
> homegrown players: Baresi, Maldini, Evani, F. Galli, Costacurta). But
the
> other Italians (G. Galli, Ancelotti, Massaro, Donadoni) didn't come
cheap.

Berlusconi outspend everyone at home and abroad? By a million. Damn him
for breaking Napoli's transfer record.

> In fact, the purchase of Donadoni is the emblem of the Berlusconi
years. He
> had already been promised to Juve, but Berlusconi stepped in with the
> millions and the Atalanta and he went in the direction of Milanello.
Juve,
> in the meantime thinks that it can keep on doing business the old
way, and
> quickly fades away from title competition.

All these great foreigners signed by clubs like Roma, Napoli, Inter,
they too must have been paid for with magic beans.

> 1990-1994: Juve realizes that it must match money with money, and starts
> splurging again on Baggio, Vialli, Moeller, Haessler and others. But
> Berlusconi keeps on hoarding players, and Milan dominates domestic
football.

What a wonderful story. These players Milan were hoarding? Who would
they be? Raduciou and Laudrup, who spent one year at the San Siro.
Papin? An expensive flop who failed to replace Van Basten, who was done
in 1992, and Gullit, who left a year later.


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From: Benny on
> Subject : 10 most hated football teams
> From : wanyikuli(a)gmail.com

> Would you say basically, they were the the original Galacticos, in
> that they spent money nobody else could on the best local and
> international players?

They spent a World record fee for Gullit. Donadoni, Galli, Massaro and
Ancelotti cost millions´┐Ż of lira. Simeone was signed from relegated
Como, after scoring SIX GOALS. The Italians that arrived after that
period were not the best local players - Panucci and Eranio were
promising players signed from Genoa but not Baggio or Vialli level stars
and guess which club signed them? Milan were dragged into a bidding war
with Juve over Lentini and paid 1 million more than Juve were prepared
to pay for him. Lentini was the last huge money Italian signing Milan
made until signing Nesta 10 years later. Ambrosini was signed as a
teenager from Cesena and Abbiati arrived from Milan's satellite club Monza.

This was nothing like the Galacticos policy of either the 1950s or
1990s. The only players that played in the starting XI of the 1995
European Cup final against Ajax that weren't there during the Sacchi era
were Desailly, Boban. Eranio, Lentini and reserve goalkeeper Ielpo were
on the bench. Savicevic was 'injured'.


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From: Sven Mischkies on
anders t <anthu_001(a)no_-_spam_.hotmail.com> wrote:

> There
> was also a discussion about the coach and his debatable history.


I am listening.


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From: Futbolmetrix on
"Benny" <Benny(a)soccer-europe.com> wrote in message
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>
> I guess you paid for Platini and Boniek with magic beans.

Platini came for peanuts. Something like 250 million lire (as opposed to 15
billion for Maradona two years later). Boniek was more expensive, but not
terribly so.

> What a wonderful story. These players Milan were hoarding? Who would they
> be? Raduciou and Laudrup, who spent one year at the San Siro. Papin? An
> expensive flop who failed to replace Van Basten, who was done in 1992, and
> Gullit, who left a year later.

That's exactly the meaning of hoarding. Milan in the 1990-1995 period spent
millions for players who ended up being expensive flops because they
couldn't win a regular spot on the starting 11. By the way, the greatest
example is Fernando De Napoli, who went from being a NT starter to a Serie C
player within two years (two years spent sitting in the San Siro luxury
box).

D




From: Sven Mischkies on
anders t <anthu_001(a)no_-_spam_.hotmail.com> wrote:

> Quoting Sven Mischkies in rec.sport.soccer:
> >anders t <anthu_001(a)no_-_spam_.hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> There
> >> was also a discussion about the coach and his debatable history.
> >
> >
> >I am listening.
>
> I don't remember the details, I'm sorry, but it had to do with supposed
> linkage to red-listed performance enhancing drugs, one way or the other.


You are accusing one of the most successfull German coaches ever of drug
abuse, and refer to his debatable history.

1) What of his history is debatable?
2) Where is the proof of his drug abuse?


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