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From: Bruce D. Scott on 3 Mar 2010 08:59 Benny (Benny(a)soccer-europe.com) wrote: : > From : 10 most hated football teams : > From : anthu_001(a)no_-_spam_.hotmail.com : >> It is normal to run 10-12km in a game, I don't believe that the greeks : >> ran 15-18km. : > : > But that's exactly what happened. Some Greeks posted ~15k. : I remember you making these remarks after Euro 2004. I'm not sure but I : don't dismiss your cliams out of hand, I thought the Korean were doped : up in 2006 given their insane workrate and given the number of high : profile Dutch players that failed drug tests e.g. Davids, Stam, Frank de : Boer. Do you mean 2002? South Korea noticeably ran out of steam as the KO rounds went on. I rather liked our chances with them had we lucked it past Germany. I thought their run rate was normal for a team that perhaps ran too much in the early matches and paid for it later. Nothing unusual there. Sort of like Italy in 1994. -- ciao, Bruce drift wave turbulence: http://www.rzg.mpg.de/~bds/
From: Bruce D. Scott on 3 Mar 2010 09:01 Sven Mischkies (hsv83(a)der-ball-ist-rund.net) wrote: : anders t <anthu_001(a)no_-_spam_.hotmail.com> wrote: : > But it was established back then that the Greeks ran up to : > 50% more during the games than the opponents. : Link? The data was that they had by far more tackles. Indicitave of greater hustle. But not necessarily that they ran more. He would have to dig up the kilometers statistic to back his claim. -- ciao, Bruce drift wave turbulence: http://www.rzg.mpg.de/~bds/
From: Futbolmetrix on 3 Mar 2010 13:46 "Abubakr" <deltarasha(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:19e47c42-1590-4868-8fe5-924a309b94a7(a)t31g2000prh.googlegroups.com... > Yes that's pure Biaconeri propaganda. In the 90's they were spending > like crazy but like Milan reverted to a more financially stable > business plan early in the noughties. First of all, nobody can be victim of the Bianconeri propaganda, as nobody can be a "victim" of the truth. Pretty much, the history of the Serie A transfer wars can be summarized as follows: 1970s-1985: Juve builds a winning machine by buying the best young Italian prospects from satellite clubs (Atalanta, Como, Cremonese). Milan is a non factor 1986-1990: Berlusconi steps in, outspends everybody in Italy and abroad, and builds a wunderteam (thanks also to the critical contribution of some homegrown players: Baresi, Maldini, Evani, F. Galli, Costacurta). But the other Italians (G. Galli, Ancelotti, Massaro, Donadoni) didn't come cheap. In fact, the purchase of Donadoni is the emblem of the Berlusconi years. He had already been promised to Juve, but Berlusconi stepped in with the millions and the Atalanta and he went in the direction of Milanello. Juve, in the meantime thinks that it can keep on doing business the old way, and quickly fades away from title competition. 1990-1994: Juve realizes that it must match money with money, and starts splurging again on Baggio, Vialli, Moeller, Haessler and others. But Berlusconi keeps on hoarding players, and Milan dominates domestic football. 1994-1999: Reshuffling of Juve property. Direct responsibility for the club goes from Gianni to brother Umberto Agnelli. Umberto Agnelli hires the triade (Giraudo-Moggi-Bettega) and tells them to be self-sufficient. Through great scouting and shrewd transfer market operations (and other shady methods according to the desperate and false claims of their detractors) Juve returns to its rightful place at the top of Italian football, without the Agnelli family chipping in a single euro. Berlusconi, having achieved the goal of establishing his credentials as an infallible winner, enters politics and gradually pulls out of direct involvement into Milan. 2000-2006: Pretty much the same as above, but Serie A's financial dominance is quickly fading, under pressure from the EPL and La Liga and their rich TV contracts. Post-2006: The Calciopoli scandal sends Juve on a sabbatical year away from the jealous mob. Many top players leave, and the Agnelli family must open the purse again to make Juve competitive again. Unfortunately, without Moggi's scouting ability, most acquisitions end up being expensive flops, and the Immaculate Virgins cement their stranglehold on Serie A. D
From: Google Beta User on 3 Mar 2010 14:14 On Mar 3, 1:46 pm, "Futbolmetrix" <futbolmet...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > 1986-1990: Berlusconi steps in, outspends everybody in Italy and abroad, and > builds a wunderteam (thanks also to the critical contribution of some > homegrown players: Baresi, Maldini, Evani, F. Galli, Costacurta). But the > other Italians (G. Galli, Ancelotti, Massaro, Donadoni) didn't come cheap.. Would you say basically, they were the the original Galacticos, in that they spent money nobody else could on the best local and international players? > Post-2006: The Calciopoli scandal sends Juve on a sabbatical year away from > the jealous mob. Many top players leave, and the Agnelli family must open > the purse again to make Juve competitive again. Unfortunately, without > Moggi's scouting ability, most acquisitions end up being expensive flops, > and the Immaculate Virgins cement their stranglehold on Serie A. Speaking of whom, how were Inter during that period? Before being gifted the first Serie A I remember a couple of UEFA Cups and a few chokejobs in Serie A. Though to be fair they won in 1989 I think. Question: In Italy, among the average fan, who is considered the most succesful club in the country? Juve or Milan?
From: Sven Mischkies on 3 Mar 2010 14:50
Google Beta User <wanyikuli(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Mar 3, 1:46 pm, "Futbolmetrix" <futbolmet...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > 1986-1990: Berlusconi steps in, outspends everybody in Italy and abroad, and > > builds a wunderteam (thanks also to the critical contribution of some > > homegrown players: Baresi, Maldini, Evani, F. Galli, Costacurta). But the > > other Italians (G. Galli, Ancelotti, Massaro, Donadoni) didn't come cheap. > > Would you say basically, they were the the original Galacticos, in > that they spent money nobody else could on the best local and > international players? The original Galacticos are of course the Millionarios of Bogota (or some place else in Columbia). ;) > Question: In Italy, among the average fan, who is considered the most > succesful club in the country? Juve or Milan? Historically it is Juve, of course. Ciao, SM -- http://www.gourockviews.co.uk I find the whole business of religion profoundly interesting. But it does mystify me that otherwise intelligent people take it seriously. Douglas Adams |