10 most hated football teams
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From: Enzo on 26 Feb 2010 07:57 On Feb 26, 8:59 am, FF <FAIRFOOTBALL....(a)domainsbyproxy.com> wrote: > Enzo wrote: > > According to this article- > >http://goal.com/en-india/news/2292/editorials/2010/02/23/1803725/10-m... > > > Argentina 90 > > They got much too high then, but I wouldn't exactly say I hate them. > Luck is part of the game, even though they got a little too much of > it, and they were also good. Not my list. I liked them ! > > > Bayern 70s > > Estudiantes 67-70 > > Don Revie's Leeds United > > No idea. I liked Estudiantes, still do. Bilardo was part of that team, and it was a cynical, physical outfit feared by the Eurocrotos. > > > Greece 2004 > > Hated is a bit too strong a word but disliked definitely. > Not by me. I enjoyed their win, especially when they did Portugal in the Stadium of Light. > > Juventus Always > > Man U post - 93 > > No idea. > > > Italy Always > > Definitely. With an emphasis on 82 and 06, and a hate break in 90 and > 98 - 02. > > > Arsenal 86 - 95 > > Ramon Calderon's RM > > No idea. > > > Here is my list of the 10 most liked - > > > Hungary 54/ The magic magyars > > Barcelona post - 07 > > I'd say post 06, 06 included. Last team to win the UCL both on > FairFootball and officially.' Thats interesting. I guess Chel$ki won it last season? The reason I put post-07 is that the earlier team was probably as skilled but had some characters like Rijkaard, Oleguer, Marquez, Eto'o and even Ronaldinho who are not universally liked. The current one seems to be full of cherubs frolicking in the sunshine. The baddest dude on the team is Dani Alves - give me a break! > > > Busby Babes Man U > > Brasil 82 > > Great team, too bad they had such a horrible keeper. But then the > keeper is part of the team too. > > > Holland /Ajax early 70's > > Santos of Pelé > > Denmark 86 - 92 > > Not really. Played well, got lucky, were practically at home. Besides, > the Euro is full of surprises. > > > Napoli of Maradona > > I don't think so. I never saw them play but I'd be very surprised if I > liked them. > > > France 82/86 ( Platini ) > > AC Milan early 90's > > No way. One of my hate teams. Basically bought their way to glory, > besides played closed rough cheat italian football IIRC.
From: Sven Mischkies on 26 Feb 2010 09:12 On Feb 26, 10:25 am, Joachim Parsch <s...(a)bunuel.franken.de> wrote: > Sven Mischkies schrieb: > > > buying players from > > direct competitors, etc. > > Also sponsoring competitors with cheap good players (Trochowski, > Ze Roberto, Jansen), spreading some young talent over the Ah, but that is the new Bayern, not the old one. ;) > > I think the reason why the 70s are listed is that at the time Germany > > had 2 new great teams - the inventive Gladbach and the cynical/clinical > > Bayern. And the cynical team was more successfull. > > I'm tired, very tired of this legend. Look at the years 69-77: Championship > won by Gladbach 5 times, won by Bayern 4 times. Let's compare the teams: > > Gladbach Bayern > > goals scored 676 715 > goals conceded 374 402 > goals/points 1.66 1.75 > > average goals scored > for a championship 71.6 87.5 > average goals conceded > in championshiip season 35 37.75 > > As can be easily seen, Bayern was the more attacking team, Gladbach > was the "cynical" team. If there is such a thing like "cynical" > football. As for Gladbach being the team winning its games 4-1, > while Bayern would do with a 1-0, the beginning of the LotR-Movie > summarizes it well: History became legend, legend became myth. :) Yes, I always wondered about that. After all Gladbach was known for counter attacking football, no? And playing for coutner attacks means that your basic setup is defensive... > There are indeed reasons for Bayern being disliked since that era: > > - Beckenbauer's arrogance: he was the leading player of the > team, and he was - as a player - always viewed sceptically by > the public: it looked all too easy, when he played, combined with > a habit of superiority. The public doesn't like this. > > - the success in itself of course will always breed some envy Yes, but Gladbach had good success, too. So why was the public so much more sympathetic to them? > - maybe also the fact, that during WC 74 the German players, led by the > Bayern guys, made some fuss about the money they wanted for > winning the whole thing Well, in the end the Bayern players were the ones who turned around the team and led to the WC win. > - maybe also the 1860 Munich <=> Bayern Munich rivalry, with > 1860 being the "worker's club" or "people's club". Gladbach never > had that problem, as they had no local rivals (the city is too > small for more than one really big club). Nobody noticed that > Bayern was always, from the very beginning, No.1 in Munich. > Only the Nazis changed that for the period from 33 to 66. How did they change that? > BUT - the claim that this is because of the "cynical" playing > style of the team is a post-rationalization of the > phenomenon with absolutely no base in facts or history. > > > > > Greece 2004 > > > > Hated is a bit too strong a word but disliked definitely. > > > I don't see why. > > Success with cynical football. Didn't you write a few lines > before that that's a reason for dislike? Sure, but they were a minnow, their win a huge upset. You can't expect a minnow to be successfull with attractive football. > > > > Man U post - 93 > > > > No idea. > > > Too successfull. ;) > > Yes. And Roy Keane, of course. Yes, I still can't believe that he was allowed back on the pitch and is allowed to manage. > > > > Ramon Calderon's RM > > > > No idea. > > > Real always. Franco. Di Stefano. Hugo Sanchez. Bribing refs and getting > > lots of funny decisions in return. Hubris to its max. The current Real > > is almost likeable, compared to the past. > > No. Not even almost ;-) ;) Ciao, SM
From: Sven Mischkies on 26 Feb 2010 09:14 On Feb 26, 12:46 pm, Abubakr <deltara...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Feb 26, 8:27 pm, hs...(a)der-ball-ist-rund.net (Sven Mischkies) > wrote: > > > > > AC Milan early 90's > > > > No way. One of my hate teams. Basically bought their way to glory, > > > besides played closed rough cheat italian football IIRC. > > > I agree regarding the money, Milan of 80s and 90s was no different to > > Chelski today. > > Except that the Milan of the late 80's and early 90's played > brilliant, ground breaking, epoch making football and Chelski are just > one of many similar bores going around. Let me correct this: Except that the Milan of the 80's and early 90's used the money that they didn't have in the first place better than Chelski. ;) Ciao, SM
From: Google Beta User on 26 Feb 2010 09:24 On Feb 25, 9:53 pm, Enzo <s_debgu...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > According to this article-http://goal.com/en-india/news/2292/editorials/2010/02/23/1803725/10-m... > > Argentina 90 > Bayern 70s > Estudiantes 67-70 > Don Revie's Leeds United > Greece 2004 > Juventus Always > Man U post - 93 > Italy Always > Arsenal 86 - 95 > Ramon Calderon's RM Chelsea now. > Here is my list of the 10 most liked - > > Hungary 54/ The magic magyars > Barcelona post - 07 Some of the "WE play REAL football unlike you" or "only one team came to play football" vibes from them sometimes is a turnoff. I wanted the Chelski to dump them last season, and I went as far as rooting for the Mancs in the final. > Denmark 86 - 92 Yes. That 1992 team was hard nto to support. > France 82/86 ( Platini ) First soccer memory, albeit hazy, is their penalty win over Brazil in 1986. > AC Milan early 90's Hated them. I liked Korea 2002 (will probably make others most hated) France 2006 (Old men Vieira and Zidane return, and show everyone how its done) Romania 1994 (Hagi!) I liked Marseille of that era, and I was in love with Stoichkov- Romario connection. That's when I was new to football (started watching in 1990 thereabouts).
From: Jesus Petry on 26 Feb 2010 09:33
On Feb 25, 11:53 pm, Enzo <s_debgu...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > According to this article-http://goal.com/en-india/news/2292/editorials/2010/02/23/1803725/10-m... > > Argentina 90 > Bayern 70s > Estudiantes 67-70 > Don Revie's Leeds United > Greece 2004 > Juventus Always > Man U post - 93 > Italy Always > Arsenal 86 - 95 > Ramon Calderon's RM > > Here is my list of the 10 most liked - > > Hungary 54/ The magic magyars > Barcelona post - 07 > Busby Babes Man U > Brasil 82 > Holland /Ajax early 70's > Santos of Pelé > Denmark 86 - 92 > Napoli of Maradona > France 82/86 ( Platini ) > AC Milan early 90's My personal dislike list would be: Rangers always: for their supporters' offensive chants. Corinthians '05: they were good enough (their attack was Nilmar and Tevez!) to win without dodgy refereeing and unprecedented tinkering, but instead... You can imagine why everyone else was glad when they were relegated in '07. Grêmio '94-'97: too freaking lucky, though they had a decent team and the genius of Scolari. Juventude '98-early '08: they seemed to play the games of their lives against us and drop the games against Grêmio. Zenit: for their racist policy. Boca Juniors '00-'06: refereeing seemed to be always on their side in the continental competitions, although they were also very good. In 2007, I just couldn't hate them too much. :-) Brasiliense always: they're just the toy of a crook. Barueri '08-today: just because they don't have supporters, it's a bland company. São Caetano early '00s: to a lesser extent than Barueri, as they had a little local support, but still too successful for their ridiculous home attendances. Calciopoli Juventus, although they have a very nice Propaganda Machine. :-) My likeable list: Internacional always: I don't have to explain. Guarany (Bagé-RS): although they currently lie in the second flight of our state league, they're still the only countryside team to have won more than one State League title. And they're my grandfather's favorites! 15 de Novembro (Campo Bom-RS): they went very far in a Copa do Brasil and reached three State League finals in the early '00s and were sort of the Bizarro world Juventude. :-) Guarani (Campinas-SP): no other countryside club has so much tradition (except for Santos who are not "exactly" countryside and are a very special case), although most people prefer their unlucky rivals Ponte Preta. Spain '08: about time they won something again! Cameroon '90s: very nice to watch and with a nice underdog factor. Nacional (PAR): so picturesque and nice! Torino '40s: I think you all know the story. Estudiantes '08-'09: much nicer than the late '60s version, especially their supporters. Independiente Medellín: their rivals bought success with coke money, and they've pulled a nice upset on Grêmio in a critical moment. :-) Tchau! Jesus Petry |