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From: Sven Mischkies on 26 Feb 2010 17:16 Benny <Benny(a)soccer-europe.com> wrote: > > What was so great about Sheva in finals? Scoring the last pk in a 0-0 > > shootout over Juve? Meh. > > Of the five finals he played in for Milan he scored the winner in the > European Super Cup against Porto and one of the goals in the Italian Cup > final against Roma in 2003. 2/5 is a lot better than Henry's record. You count the 'Super Cup' and the Tin 'we attract from 200 spectators upward' Cup as real finals? Ciao, SM -- http://www.gourockviews.co.uk I find the whole business of religion profoundly interesting. But it does mystify me that otherwise intelligent people take it seriously. Douglas Adams
From: Benny on 26 Feb 2010 17:58 > Subject : 10 most hated football teams > From : hsv83(a)der-ball-ist-rund.net > You count the 'Super Cup' and the Tin 'we attract from 200 spectators > upward' Cup as real finals? > > > Ciao, > SM Do you count the DFB cup? And we've had this discussion before, you can only compete for the European Super Cup IF you win either the European Cup or UEFA Cup and that's why it means something. -- http://soccer-europe.com Rss feed : http://soccer-europe.com/RSS/News.xml
From: higgs on 26 Feb 2010 18:29 On Feb 27, 7:27 am, Benny <Be...(a)soccer-europe.com> wrote: > > Subject : 10 most hated football teams > > From : alkami...(a)hotmail.com > > > I dont know much about Milan from that era but a quick peak at the > > history of transfer records shows that they broke the world transfer > > record three times from '87 to 92', including twice in '92 itself! > > Gullit 6m 1987 > > Papin 10m 1992 > > Lentini 13m 1992 > > That's right but other players were signed for a pittance i.e. Van > Basten, Rijkaard, Desailly, Savicevic and Boban which you have of course > continently left out and the Papin and Lentini signings were made after > a Milan side built for pennies had established itself as the best in the > World. The transfer record was broken three times in 1992, £10 million > Papin to Milan, £12 million for Vialli to Juventus then £13 million for > Lentini to Milan. Lentini never lived upto expectations and Papin was a > flop. The successful Milan sides of that era were not expensively built. > I imagine that Barca side that were whalloped in the 1994 European Cup > final cost a lot more to build than that Milan side. > It's worth noting that these 'pittances' paid for players were still well in excess of what most other clubs paid. The British transfer record in 1984 was 1.5 mill (Wilkins. ManU to...........AC Milan), it was 3.2 mill in 1987 when Juve bought Rush. If you look at the British record transfers of that period, they were all from British clubs to Italian (and sometimes Spanish) clubs. It may have been a pittance to clubs like AC, but the team was certainly expensive by the standards of the time. > > Even Chelsea cant hold a candle to that, it smells more like Real > > Madrid of the '00s. > > It's nothing like Real Madrid. Real Madrid spend heavily year in year > out and had no rivals in monetary terms domestically. Milan made record > signings three times in five years the last of which was the Lentini > transfer way back in 1992. Inter, Juve and Lazio broke the record in the > early part of last decade before Real Madrid took over. > We're talking about the Milan side of that period, not the late 90s. Breaking the transfer record 3 times in 5 years tells me they paid top dollar for top players. > > And please dont insult Wenger by comparing Milan's spending habits to > > his, he is unparalleled when it come to bargain hunting and developing > > players. > > Excuse me? How many Ballon D'or winners has Wenger developed? None. > There isn't a single player, not even Henry, who can hold a candle to > Van Basten or Savicevic or Shevchenko (at his peak) or Kaka'. In terms > of centre backs Wenger has a SHOCKING record and he's equally suspect in > his development of goalkeepers. > How do you work out these players were 'developed' by AC? Rijkaard had just won the UEFA Cup with Ajax, as had Gullit. Gullit had also won the European Championships with Holland and was regarded by many as the best player in the world. To me, developing players and spotting talent is about finding young players at the start of their career (or bringing on a so-so player in their mid twenties) and turning them into world beaters. Spending limitless amounts of money on proven world class players hardly seems to me indicative of a brilliant scouting setup. It's simply having deep pockets
From: Sven Mischkies on 26 Feb 2010 19:19 Benny <Benny(a)soccer-europe.com> wrote: > > Subject : 10 most hated football teams > > From : hsv83(a)der-ball-ist-rund.net > > > You count the 'Super Cup' and the Tin 'we attract from 200 spectators > > upward' Cup as real finals? > > > > > > Ciao, > > SM > > Do you count the DFB cup? And we've had this discussion before, you can > only compete for the European Super Cup IF you win either the European > Cup or UEFA Cup and that's why it means something. The DFB Pokal is a second rate competition. The Tin Cup is third rate. The Super Cup is no competition at all, it is an exhibition, just like the old Toyota Cup or whatever it was called. Ciao, SM -- http://www.gourockviews.co.uk I find the whole business of religion profoundly interesting. But it does mystify me that otherwise intelligent people take it seriously. Douglas Adams
From: Diabolik on 26 Feb 2010 19:19
"Abubakr" <deltarasha(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:3e15ae90-4fb1-4caa-9a9b-ad1df3f2256a(a)v20g2000prb.googlegroups.com... On Feb 26, 8:27 pm, hs...(a)der-ball-ist-rund.net (Sven Mischkies) wrote: > > > AC Milan early 90's > > > No way. One of my hate teams. Basically bought their way to glory, > > besides played closed rough cheat italian football IIRC. > > I agree regarding the money, Milan of 80s and 90s was no different to > Chelski today. > Except that the Milan of the late 80's and early 90's played > brilliant, ground breaking, epoch making football and Chelski are just > one of many similar bores going around. Exactly! Sacchi was an unknown and Berlusconi had the balls to risk. Even so, they WON many CL's. What did Inter and Chelsea do with the money? Did they win any CL's? Money alone isn't enough to win. |