From: FF on 2 Mar 2010 16:35
Sven Mischkies wrote:
> FF <FAIRFOOTBALL.COM(a)domainsbyproxy.com> wrote:
> > Anyway, to simply equate debt with cheating, as many people here or
> > elsewhere do, is pure feudalism as I said.
> Of course it is not cheating as it is not against the rules. Selling
> your soul to become the toy of someone is sad, but not illegal.
Right. My point exactly. Sad but not cheating. Agreed 100%.
It's unfair like say the fact that some children are born filthy rich
and others die of hunger in Africa. It's not right, but not cheating
either. Life sucks, that's how it is and we have to live with it.
From: Sven Mischkies on 2 Mar 2010 17:11
Benny <Benny(a)soccer-europe.com> wrote:
> > Subject : 10 most hated football teams
> > From : hsv83(a)der-ball-ist-rund.net
> > What about the 20 years before the relegation? And not just money spent,
> > but profit/loss in the transfermarket?
> 20 years? You're not asking for much are you?
> I've got data going back
> 10 years and you'll have to wait until I import everything into Access,
> which won't be for a while.
Nah, it's ok, thanks for the effort. I don't care much about which of
the two spent more.
I find the whole business of religion profoundly interesting. But it
does mystify me that otherwise intelligent people take it seriously.
From: higgs on 3 Mar 2010 03:04
On Mar 3, 8:31 am, Benny <Be...(a)soccer-europe.com> wrote:
> > Subject : 10 most hated football teams
> > From : hs...(a)der-ball-ist-rund.net
> > And we already established that Milan were at the forefront of this
> > development towards the overspending megaclubs. And going back from that
> > out of necessity - nah, that is not admirable.
> We didn't establish anything of the sort.
Actually, we did.
You appear to be the lone dissenter.
>I'd like to hear how you think
> Milan's World record signing of Lentini in 1992 was responsible for
> Barca paying big money for Romario in 1993 or for the 6 million PSV
> paid for Ronaldo in 1996. Transfer fees skyrocketed in the 1980s due to
> the lifting of the foreign player ban in Serie A in the 1980s and also
> because of the explosion of SATELLITE TELEVISION in the 1990s. As the
> richest and most successful club of course Milan were in a position to
> spend more than other clubs. Blaming Milan is as ridiculous as blaming
> Forest for breaking the million pound barrier in 1979 or Maradona for
> setting consecutive records in 1982 when he joined Barca for 3 million
> and Napoli 2 years later for 5 million.
I'd say it's a no-brainer.
Milan had a successful period in the late 80s-early 90s by spending
big money on overseas players.
Other teams copied that model in an attempt to emulate that success.
As for blaming Maradona, I don't think anyone has (or did). Maradona
was the most valuable commodity in world football in the early 80s, so
it's no surprise that he went for the most money.
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From: FF on 3 Mar 2010 08:08
> Sven Mischkies wrote:
> > FF <FAIRFOOTBALL.COM(a)domainsbyproxy.com> wrote:
> > > Anyway, to simply equate debt with cheating, as many people here or
> > > elsewhere do, is pure feudalism as I said.
> > Of course it is not cheating as it is not against the rules. Selling
> > your soul to become the toy of someone is sad, but not illegal.
> Right. My point exactly. Sad but not cheating. Agreed 100%.
> It's unfair like say the fact that some children are born filthy rich
> and others die of hunger in Africa. It's not right, but not cheating
> either. Life sucks, that's how it is and we have to live with it.
Actually, that's not the best of examples, since children dying of
hunger in Africa are a disgrace and at some point will have to cease
to exist. A better one would be that there are and always will be (or
at least in the foreseeable future) rich children and middle-class
children. As I said, not right but that's how it is and we have to
live with it.
From: Bruce D. Scott on 3 Mar 2010 08:47
anders t (anthu_001(a)no_-_spam_.hotmail.com) wrote:
: Quoting Bruce D. Scott in rec.sport.soccer:
: >anders t (anthu_001(a)no_-_spam_.hotmail.com) wrote:
: >: If I had had evidence I'd have provided it already to UEFA and the Greek
: >: police. Of course I have no evidence. It wasn't possible to prove back
: >: then, as I said. But it was established back then that the Greeks ran up to
: >: 50% more during the games than the opponents. That's only possible by using
: >: stamina enhancing drugs. And EPO is the best there is.
: >Sorry, but all that is is a typical Usenet-debater logical leap. False
: No, it isn't. It is neither proven false nor true. You can't say it's
: false. It is one possible conclusion. You may not think it is so, but you
: certainly can't say it is false.
No, that's a false game Anders. When you make such an accusation you
have to bring the goods. It is _not_ a "balanced" situation.
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