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From: Chagney Hunt on 2 Jun 2010 21:19 England - Scotland: haven't met for a while (Scottish FA refused to renew the annual meet, perhaps they're waiting for a better crop of players). Anyway, the hate has been largely just one sided for 2 decades. Netherlands - Germany: a shadow of what it was from 88-92. Modern players are too PR-trained to mouth off vitriolic comments for the other side to misconstrue. Argentina - Brazil: Still a rivalry, but if it keeps going the way it has been, it'll be just Argentines hating Brasucas. England - Germany: clinically dead. England exorcised their German ghost with that 5-1 drubbing in Munich. Germany need to eliminate England on pens again just to warm this corpse up. Uruguay - Argentina: Dead, or almost so. Anyone still cares other than Uruguayans and really old Argentines? France - Italy: Some crucial meetings recently -- 2 finals (2000, 2006), but only *that* headbutt generated some heated words. But then again, the Italians have had such words for everybody they've lost to :-) Spain - Italy: I didn't even know this was a rivalry until Spain made a big deal of beating Italy on pens.
From: Bruce D. Scott on 2 Jun 2010 21:47 Chagney Hunt (essetm(a)gmail.com) wrote: : France - Italy: Some crucial meetings recently -- 2 finals (2000, : 2006), but only *that* headbutt generated some heated words. But then : again, the Italians have had such words for everybody they've lost : to :-) This is one of the biggest if you know a few Italians :-) They are alwys happy to see France damaged... to the point of supporting South Korea in 2006 when they were in France's group! Friends tell me they are satisfied with elimination if France go out first. : Spain - Italy: I didn't even know this was a rivalry until Spain made : a big deal of beating Italy on pens. Very big since the 1994 Tassotti incident. Maybe slightly less now. -- ciao, Bruce drift wave turbulence: http://www.rzg.mpg.de/~bds/
From: Adama on 2 Jun 2010 23:52 "Chagney Hunt" <essetm(a)gmail.com> a �crit dans le message de news: bf4aae5f-a91e-4923-9437-279afaf4b947(a)u7g2000yqm.googlegroups.com... > > England - Scotland: haven't met for a while (Scottish FA refused to > renew the annual meet, perhaps they're waiting for a better crop of > players). Anyway, the hate has been largely just one sided for 2 > decades. > > Netherlands - Germany: a shadow of what it was from 88-92. Modern > players are too PR-trained to mouth off vitriolic comments for the > other side to misconstrue. > > Argentina - Brazil: Still a rivalry, but if it keeps going the way it > has been, it'll be just Argentines hating Brasucas. > > England - Germany: clinically dead. England exorcised their German > ghost with that 5-1 drubbing in Munich. Germany need to eliminate > England on pens again just to warm this corpse up. > > Uruguay - Argentina: Dead, or almost so. Anyone still cares other than > Uruguayans and really old Argentines? > > France - Italy: Some crucial meetings recently -- 2 finals (2000, > 2006), but only *that* headbutt generated some heated words. But then > again, the Italians have had such words for everybody they've lost > to :-) > > Spain - Italy: I didn't even know this was a rivalry until Spain made > a big deal of beating Italy on pens. There is still good old France Germany.
From: Jordi on 3 Jun 2010 06:41 On 3 jun, 03:47, b...(a)ipp-garching.mpg.de (Bruce D. Scott) wrote: > Chagney Hunt (ess...(a)gmail.com) wrote: > > : France - Italy: Some crucial meetings recently -- 2 finals (2000, > : 2006), but only *that* headbutt generated some heated words. But then > : again, the Italians have had such words for everybody they've lost > : to :-) > > This is one of the biggest if you know a few Italians :-) > They are alwys happy to see France damaged... to the point of > supporting South Korea in 2006 when they were in France's group! > Friends tell me they are satisfied with elimination if France go out > first. > > : Spain - Italy: I didn't even know this was a rivalry until Spain made > : a big deal of beating Italy on pens. > > Very big since the 1994 Tassotti incident. Maybe slightly less now. > It used to be quite big, but It resurfaces a little every time Spanish and Italian teams meet in Europe. The old catenaccio vs. pretty football thing. Every time there's a Spain - Italy, Marca never fails to show Luis Enrique's bloody face after Tassoti elbowed him.
From: Mark on 3 Jun 2010 12:38
On Jun 3, 2:19 am, Chagney Hunt <ess...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > England - Germany: clinically dead. England exorcised their German > ghost with that 5-1 drubbing in Munich. Germany need to eliminate > England on pens again just to warm this corpse up. > Was this ever anything more than sour grapes from the English because of the penalty shoot out defeats at the 1990 World Cup and 1996 European championship? I lived in england until 1997 and I wasn't aware of any rivalry between these 2! |