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From: Deeppe on 4 Jun 2010 00:38 On Jun 3, 7:16 pm, b...(a)ipp-garching.mpg.de (Bruce D. Scott) wrote: > > On the France/Italy rivalry from the Italian perspective of my > colleagues, I didn't really know about it until the 2006 World Cup. Not > least the extent to which people supported S Korea just in order to > damage France. Colleagues were deriving and wishing for improbable > scenarios (like Togo damaging France) to kick them out at the group > stage. > This sounds like a very normal and healthy baseball rivalry where one wishes their opponent the worst. This sounds very normal to me for a rivalry. I would say if supporters don't go to such lengths it's not a true rivalry at all.
From: Real Mardin on 4 Jun 2010 05:38 On Jun 3, 5:38 pm, Mark <Pammieshe...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > On Jun 3, 2:19 am, Chagney Hunt <ess...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > England - Germany: clinically dead. England exorcised their German > > ghost with that 5-1 drubbing in Munich. Germany need to eliminate > > England on pens again just to warm this corpse up. > > Was this ever anything more than sour grapes from the English because > of the penalty shoot out defeats at the 1990 World Cup and 1996 > European championship? I lived in england until 1997 and I wasn't > aware of any rivalry between these 2! ?????? Did you notice that we drive on the left hand side of the road and that the currency is Pound Sterling? RM
From: Karamako on 4 Jun 2010 07:49 Bruce D. Scott a �crit : > On the France/Italy rivalry from the Italian perspective of my > colleagues, I didn't really know about it until the 2006 World Cup. > Not least the extent to which people supported S Korea just in order > to damage France. Colleagues were deriving and wishing for improbable > scenarios (like Togo damaging France) to kick them out at the group > stage. It's natural : when I watch a match from a "neutral" point of view, I (nearly) always hope the "outsider" win...
From: Mehdi on 4 Jun 2010 08:59 > Subject : Dying rivalries > From : Pammiesheart(a)yahoo.co.uk > Was this ever anything more than sour grapes from the English because > of the penalty shoot out defeats at the 1990 World Cup and 1996 > European championship? I lived in england until 1997 and I wasn't > aware of any rivalry between these 2! The 'Two World Wars, One World Cup' T-Shirt sums up the English viewpoint. Obviously forgetting that the US and Russians had the decisive roles in the World Wars and that Germany have won THREE World Cups. -- http://soccer-europe.com Rss feed : http://soccer-europe.com/RSS/News.xml
From: higgs on 4 Jun 2010 09:46
On Jun 4, 10:59 pm, Mehdi <Be...(a)soccer-europe.com> wrote: > > Subject : Dying rivalries > > From : Pammieshe...(a)yahoo.co.uk > > > Was this ever anything more than sour grapes from the English because > > of the penalty shoot out defeats at the 1990 World Cup and 1996 > > European championship? I lived in england until 1997 and I wasn't > > aware of any rivalry between these 2! > > The 'Two World Wars, One World Cup' T-Shirt sums up the English > viewpoint. Obviously forgetting that the US and Russians had the > decisive roles in the World Wars and that Germany have won THREE World Cups. > > --http://soccer-europe.com > Rss feed :http://soccer-europe.com/RSS/News.xml Given that, as explained elsewhere, it harks back to 1966,as does the chant you'd serve yourself by reading up on WC history. Hint: Germany won their 2nd WC in 1974, |