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From: RED DEVIL on 26 Jun 2010 15:20
On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 13:58:36 -0400, Manx Gunner <goal(a)4thegunners!com>
>On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 13:54:51 -0400, RED DEVIL wrote...
>> >> The empty seats are no real surprise. The Africans could not support
>> >> coming out to the matches on their own accord. Too poor.
>> >FIFA could fix this, of course, but they never would.
>> There was a recent match (forget which) where the local kids were
>> allowed in free to take up the empty seats, more of this should be
>Wasn't that the one before the World Cup, causing a stampede?
no, this was one of the matches played this week
From: Mart van de Wege on 26 Jun 2010 18:17
> Latin America has one quarterfinalist and is guaranteed two more,
> plus Paraguay has an excellent chance to make it four! In fact,
> looking at the draw again, the only European team I would bet to see
> in the semis is the winner of Portugal-Spain! Absolutely incredible.
> A true World Cup. . . .
Apart from the fact that they're not dazzling the crowd (yet), what's
wrong with the Netherlands?
"We will need a longer wall when the revolution comes."
--- AJS, quoting an uncertain source.
From: Chagney Hunt on 26 Jun 2010 18:33
On Jun 26, 6:17 pm, Mart van de Wege <mvdw...(a)mail.com> wrote:
> Apart from the fact that they're not dazzling the crowd (yet), what's
> wrong with the Netherlands?
They play like the Germans now .
From: KaiserD2 on 26 Jun 2010 18:47
On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 00:17:11 +0200, Mart van de Wege
>> Latin America has one quarterfinalist and is guaranteed two more,
>> plus Paraguay has an excellent chance to make it four! In fact,
>> looking at the draw again, the only European team I would bet to see
>> in the semis is the winner of Portugal-Spain! Absolutely incredible.
>> A true World Cup. . . .
>Apart from the fact that they're not dazzling the crowd (yet), what's
>wrong with the Netherlands?
Nothing is wrong with them, but as I said, I wouldn't BET on them
to beat Brazil.
From: MH on 26 Jun 2010 18:50
Manx Gunner wrote:
> On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 08:06:01 -0700, Bob wrote...
>> Ridiculous that he didn't give a pk for that handball; how could anyone deny
>> it wasn't deliberate. I have a hard time imagining that the ref couldn't
>> have seen it either.
> Part of the problem is people thinking that it matters whether or not
> it's deliberate in all cases. It doesn't.
HAve you ever read the laws of the game ? According to them it matters
very much indeed whether it was deliberate.
LAw 12: (excerpt)
A direct free kick is also awarded to the opposing team if a player
of the following three offences:
.. holds an opponent
.. spits at an opponent
.. handles the ball deliberately (except for the goalkeeper within his own
Note use of word DELIBERATELY
Later in the instructions to referees we have:
Handling the ball
Handling the ball involves a deliberate act of a player making contact with
the ball with his hand or arm. The referee must take the following into
.. the movement of the hand towards the ball (not the ball towards the hand)
.. the distance between the opponent and the ball (unexpected ball)
.. the position of the hand does not necessarily mean that there is an
.. touching the ball with an object held in the hand (clothing, shinguard
counts as an infringement
.. hitting the ball with a thrown object (boot, shinguard etc.) counts as an
There are circumstances when a caution for unsporting behaviour is required
when a player deliberately handles the ball, e.g. when a player:
.. deliberately and blatantly handles the ball to prevent an opponent gaining
.. attempts to score a goal by deliberately handling the ball
A player is sent off, however, if he prevents a goal or an obvious
opportunity by deliberately handling the ball. This punishment arises
the act of the player deliberately handling the ball but from the
and unfair intervention that prevented a goal being scored.
IN other words you haven't a clue what you are talking about.