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From: Abubakr on 26 Jun 2010 11:57 On Jun 27, 1:16 am, Manx Gunner <goal(a)4thegunners!com> wrote: > On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 08:14:05 -0700 (PDT), Abubakr wrote... > > On Jun 27, 1:11 am, Manx Gunner <goal(a)4thegunners!com> wrote: > > > On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 08:06:01 -0700, Bob wrote... > > > > Ridiculous that he didn't give a pk for that handball; how could anyone deny > > > > it wasn't deliberate. I have a hard time imagining that the ref couldn't > > > > have seen it either. > > > > Part of the problem is people thinking that it matters whether or not > > > it's deliberate in all cases. It doesn't. > > > It might not but it should. > > No, of course it shouldn't. If your arm is out from your body, whether > you meant it or not, if it denies a goal-scoring chance: penalty. That's only your subjective opinion but it has nothing to do with the rules of the game. > Ideally, referees should not have to determine intent. Footballers are > far too dishonest and willing to con the referee to have judging their > honesty and sense of fair play as a critical aspect of officiating. And have players taking pot shot at arms? Don't think so.
From: Vuvuzela on 26 Jun 2010 11:57 Mark V. wrote: > On Jun 26, 11:35 am, Manx Gunner <goal(a)4thegunners!com> wrote: > > On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 15:30:59 GMT, Diabolik wrote... > > > > Part of the problem is people thinking that it matters whether or not > > > > it's deliberate in all cases. It doesn't. > > > > > Of course it does. It has to be intentional. > > > > Of course it doesn't, as numerous officials have stated in the past. > > > > If your arm is away from your body and stops the ball on the line, it's > > a penalty - period, and with no whining arguing about whether or not you > > meant to cheat the other team out of a goal or not. > What are you an ex army MP? If you gave handball all the time then everone would run in the box and flip the ball against the opponents arm. Is everyone in this group so stupid? > Game on! Suarez goal in the 80th!
From: Bob on 26 Jun 2010 12:00 Mark V. wrote: > On Jun 26, 11:42 am, Manx Gunner <goal(a)4thegunners!com> wrote: >> On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 08:40:37 -0700 (PDT), Mark V. wrote... >>> On Jun 26, 11:35 am, Manx Gunner <goal(a)4thegunners!com> wrote: >>>> On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 15:30:59 GMT, Diabolik wrote... >>>>>> Part of the problem is people thinking that it matters whether >>>>>> or not it's deliberate in all cases. It doesn't. >> >>>>> Of course it does. It has to be intentional. >> >>>> Of course it doesn't, as numerous officials have stated in the >>>> past. >> >>>> If your arm is away from your body and stops the ball on the line, >>>> it's a penalty - period, and with no whining arguing about whether >>>> or not you meant to cheat the other team out of a goal or not. >> >>> Game on! Suarez goal in the 80th! >> >> Great shot, that one... fun to watch. >> >> On a side note, am I the only one who likes to watch soccer in the >> rain? >> >> Not an absolute downpour, mind you... but I think a nice steady rain >> can often add to a game, as long as the players aren't losing their >> footing very often. > > I agree, and it is nice to play in the rain, too, until the field > becomes so slippery that you can't powerfully clear a ball from your > own end for fear you'll slip or either injure yourself. > > Uruguay will hang on, I think, and will only ever-so-slightly deserve > this win. Pity for the US, providing they get by Ghana. I feared ROK > less. Uruguay seems to be able to do just what it takes to win a > match, and they are dark horses, IMHO, to get to the finals. I agree. Uruguay has a balanced squad with quality all over,
From: Bob on 26 Jun 2010 12:01 Mark V. wrote: > On Jun 26, 11:12 am, Google Beta User <wanyik...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Koreans creating lots of chances in this 2nd half. They're looking >> good to score, hope they do and that we have a game. > > I'm surprised at how much the Uruguayans seem to have taken the foot > off the pedal. Unfortunate for the spectacle, but they got punished and had to make up for it.
From: KaiserD2 on 26 Jun 2010 12:01
On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 08:31:19 -0700 (PDT), "ken.overton(a)gmail.com" <ken.overton(a)gmail.com> wrote: >On Jun 26, 11:25�am, b...(a)ipp-garching.mpg.de (Bruce D. Scott) wrote: >> Well well well Korea get a lucky bounce in the air off the heads and >> they put it in. �A richly deserved 1-1. �Now it is advantage to the >> Koreans because they won't sit back and they've got the momentum. > >Agreed, then their goalie nearly conceded a goal catching a slow >looping freekick with his feet behind the goal line. That was >baffling how he played that. > >Uruguay's suddenly woken up now, creating 3 chances in a row. So Uruguay wins! They should have been up 2-0 but for the ref, and the whole game would have been different. But as it was they nearly blew it. Suarez is the Gerd Mueller of this tournament. They have to play the way they did against Mexico in the quarters or they will probably blow it again. Latin America has one quarterfinalist and is guaranteed two more, plus Paraguay has an excellent chance to make it four! In fact, looking at the draw again, the only European team I would bet to see in the semis is the winner of Portugal-Spain! Absolutely incredible. A true World Cup. . . . DK |