From: Starcade on 28 Jun 2010 21:14
On Jun 28, 3:29 pm, HASM <netn...(a)invalid.com> wrote:
> Starcade <darkstar7...(a)gmail.com> writes:
> > If Kaka doesn't get sent off or suspended -- he was called for a shirt
> > pull on yellow (and, by the Laws, that should mean red).
> Which Law? Shirt pull, unless bringing down a player that is about to
> score, resulting in DOGSO, is mostly punished as USB, and USB is a caution
> (yellow card) not ejection (red card).
He was already on yellow.
From: Abubakr on 29 Jun 2010 01:06
On Jun 29, 9:27 am, Clément <lcmello.lis...(a)terra.com.br> wrote:
> "MH" escreveu na mensagemnews:i0b3sg$k8k$1(a)news.ucalgary.ca...
> > Futbolmetrix wrote:
> >> I also saw that Dunga dropped Felipe Melo.
> > They said he was injured.
> > Ramires picked up second yellow today, so Melo may be back if he has
> > recovered.
> Unfortunately, MH is correct. Stupid Ramires to pick a second yellow when
> there were good chances for him to become a starter.
> According to Brazil's doctor, however, both Melo and Elano are highly
> doubtful for the match against the Netherlands (as long as you can believe
> these reports, of course).
I don't like both Melo and Gilberto Silva in midfield. To borrow a
term from another sport, there was better fore-aft balance to their
play with Ramirez and Daniel Alves flanking the sweeper. I hope Elano
recovers so that he starts in Alves' spot and Alves takes over from
Ramirez on the left.
From: JGN on 29 Jun 2010 11:47
On Jun 28, 1:31 pm, Clément <lcmello.lis...(a)terra.com.br> wrote:
> "JK" escreveu na mensagemnews:i0akm3$9o8$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
> > anders t wrote:
> >> Prediction:
> >> 3-0
> > 4-1, just like in 98.
> This has the potential for a great game. I won't predict any scores, but
> will waste a little bandwith on...
> Why Brazil should win:
> - On paper, they are the superior team;
> - Chile is a good matchup for them, as the offensive team they are they
> should concede the space Brazil enjoys so much to unleash their counters.
> Why Chile should win:
> - While some other teams won't give Brazil a lot, if any, space, these teams
> also don't threaten Brazil's solid defense. This is obviously not true of
> Chile, who have the audacity and the quality up front to pose Brazil
> - They played Brazil a lot in the last 4 years, and know them as very few
> opponents do. They surely learned a lot from the past encounters.
> Key to a Brazil win:
> - Don't change the approach that gave them a 5-0-0 record against Chile
> during Dunga's tenure. Don't be overconfident, keep focus, be patient, keep
> possession and wait for the right time to strike with their typical
> efficience. There will be chances.
> Key to a Chile win:
> - Don't change the approach that qualified them to the World Cup with
> relative ease, made them one of the more pleasant teams to watch in the
> entire competition, and earned them a r16 spot in a tricky group. Bielsa (a
> coach I admire) gets it: this is not the time to stop playing to Chile's
> strengths. While they are not, and should not, be satisfied with a r16 exit,
> they are the ones with nothing to lose today. And an opportunity to make
> The next hour can't pass quickly enough.
> Good luck, JGN!
I have nothing to say but: well done. Completely outclassed. It was a
pity that both Medel and Ponce where suspended, but if they had played
maybe it was 2-0 instead of 3-0. Bielsa played faithful to his style,
but Brazil didn't show the laxity of the 1st round against North
Korea. Defenders left us no space, we got owned on the air game (as
expected - what is the average height difference, at least 10 cm?) and
Dunga's pragmatic style with Brazilian technique makes for deadly
counters. I'm pleased that the Brazilian goals all came from counters
or corners, and ball posession was pretty much even, which tells the
same story I saw on the TV. We played our guts out, we tried for our
game and went for it all game long instead of surrendering the ball,
but Brazil was simply better. Would have liked Sanchez to score at
least one in this World cup, but well, we leave with our heads held
high, which is more than what Acosta (or worse, Olmos) can say.
From: JGN on 29 Jun 2010 11:49
On Jun 28, 8:30 pm, Mehdi <Be...(a)soccer-europe.com> wrote:
> > Subject : OTO 6: Brazil - Chile [R]
> > From : wanyik...(a)gmail.com
> > Alves is going to be a midfielder for this game. Does he play there
> > sometimes for Barcelona?
> Maybe a couple of times.
> > Also who is the "good" Suazo, is it Honduras Suazo or Chile Suazo?
> The Honduran Davis Suazo was good until he joined Inter. The other,
> Humberto, was good in the qualifiers which of course means nothing.
He (Humberto) was on fire on the qualies, but got injured a month
before the WC or so. He played about a match an a half in this WC, and
against the Swiss and the Brazilian defenses. Not much to do there :(
From: Clément on 29 Jun 2010 12:10
> On Jun 29, 9:27 am, Cl�ment wrote:
>> "MH" escreveu na mensagemnews:i0b3sg$k8k$1(a)news.ucalgary.ca...
>>> Futbolmetrix wrote:
>>>> I also saw that Dunga dropped Felipe Melo.
>>> They said he was injured.
>>> Ramires picked up second yellow today, so Melo may be back if he has
>> Unfortunately, MH is correct. Stupid Ramires to pick a second yellow when
>> there were good chances for him to become a starter.
>> According to Brazil's doctor, however, both Melo and Elano are highly
>> doubtful for the match against the Netherlands (as long as you can
>> these reports, of course).
> I don't like both Melo and Gilberto Silva in midfield. To borrow a
> term from another sport, there was better fore-aft balance to their
> play with Ramirez and Daniel Alves flanking the sweeper.
I agree. The team's overall play seemed to flow better.
> I hope Elano recovers so that he starts in Alves' spot and Alves
> takes over from Ramirez on the left.
Interesting idea. Not sure Dunga would go with it though.
In any case, I'm not particularly optimistic about Elano's recovery.