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From: Bruce D. Scott on 13 Jun 2010 19:05 Jellore (jellore(a)bigpond.com) wrote: : England failed to win the match because they wasted a number of good : chances, inexcusable efforts from Lennon and Wright-Phillips....and : of course perhaps the biggest goalkeeping blunder at a WC. Zubizzareta against Nigeria (the 2-2 in 1998) was comparable. Luis Miguel Arconada (the 0-1 against France in Euro84) was arguable worse since he had stopped the shot but elbowed the ball into his net while getting up, and moreover it was in the Final and arguably decided it. There are lots of instances of teams not winning by being wasteful. In that instance if they don't win they don't deserve to. Serbia comes to mind. Lots of good play with miserable execution on the final pass or shot attempt. And then they paid for it. But sure, we're the US and this is football so we don't get no respect -- ciao, Bruce drift wave turbulence: http://www.rzg.mpg.de/~bds/
From: KaiserD2 on 13 Jun 2010 19:34 On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 18:55:20 -0400, El Kot <nono.black.elko(a)gmail.com> wrote: >KaiserD2(a)gmail.com wrote: >> Jellore <jellore(a)bigpond.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> However if you are trying the claim that the US were the better team >>> on the night then you are just trolling, something I wouldn't put past >>> you.i >>> England failed to win the match because they wasted a number of good >>> chances, inexcusable efforts from Lennon and Wright-Phillips....and >>> of course perhaps the biggest goalkeeping blunder at a WC. >> >> Well, that sure got everyone's attention! >> >> I'm an American although, since I became a fan of international >> soccer long before the US was on the map (1974) and since I still >> don't think we can possibly win the WC, I never can quite decide how >> hard to root for my home country team. It was actually the New York >> Times that I was angry at, largely because it is an American newspaper >> and should have given credit to the team for a good performance >> instead of writing a headline implying that only an English blunder >> saved us. > > >You should be happy with the way the New York Post printed it, then: > >http://www.mediaite.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/front061310.jpg > >:) :) the Guardian piece is very fair: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/jun/12/england-usa-world-cup-group-c but it makes one big mistake. David Green did NOT get his body behind the shot. He squatted rooted to the ground and waved at it with both hands. DK
From: William Clark on 13 Jun 2010 19:37 In article <MPG.267f1c53e112f1b298d43f(a)news-europe.giganews.com>, Manx Gunner <goal(a)4thegunners!com> wrote: > On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 15:51:07 -0400, William Clark wrote... > > > Plus US teams will all run themselves into > > the ground for a result, something England didn't seem inclined to do. > > This is an important point. The US team seems to be fighting an uphill > battle, desperate to win or at least do their level best each match. > The England team seem to play like they're terrified of losing. I > suspect that the pressure put on them by the British public/media has a > lot to do with that, but if they don't get over it, they'll never win. Agreed.
From: William Clark on 13 Jun 2010 19:39 In article <hv3o7g$1ggv$3(a)gwdu112.gwdg.de>, bds(a)ipp-garching.mpg.de (Bruce D. Scott) wrote: > Jellore (jellore(a)bigpond.com) wrote: > > : England failed to win the match because they wasted a number of good > : chances, inexcusable efforts from Lennon and Wright-Phillips....and > : of course perhaps the biggest goalkeeping blunder at a WC. > > Zubizzareta against Nigeria (the 2-2 in 1998) was comparable. Luis > Miguel Arconada (the 0-1 against France in Euro84) was arguable worse > since he had stopped the shot but elbowed the ball into his net while > getting up, and moreover it was in the Final and arguably decided it. > > There are lots of instances of teams not winning by being wasteful. In > that instance if they don't win they don't deserve to. Serbia comes to > mind. Lots of good play with miserable execution on the final pass or > shot attempt. And then they paid for it. > > But sure, we're the US and this is football so we don't get no respect > > -- > ciao, > Bruce > > drift wave turbulence: http://www.rzg.mpg.de/~bds/ Actually, I think the worst miss was Heskey's, when he was put in the clear, and shot straight at Howard. A prima facie case of brawn before brains - I can't see Messi making that mistake.
From: Mark V. on 13 Jun 2010 19:44
On Jun 13, 3:55 pm, El Kot <nono.black.e...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Kaise...(a)gmail.com wrote: > > Jellore <jell...(a)bigpond.com> wrote: > > >> However if you are trying the claim that the US were the better team > >> on the night then you are just trolling, something I wouldn't put past > >> you.i > >> England failed to win the match because they wasted a number of good > >> chances, inexcusable efforts from Lennon and Wright-Phillips....and > >> of course perhaps the biggest goalkeeping blunder at a WC. > > > Well, that sure got everyone's attention! > > > I'm an American although, since I became a fan of international > > soccer long before the US was on the map (1974) and since I still > > don't think we can possibly win the WC, I never can quite decide how > > hard to root for my home country team. It was actually the New York > > Times that I was angry at, largely because it is an American newspaper > > and should have given credit to the team for a good performance > > instead of writing a headline implying that only an English blunder > > saved us. > > You should be happy with the way the New York Post printed it, then: > > http://www.mediaite.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/front061310.jpg > > :) :) > > -- > No, no, you can't e-mail me with the nono. I nearly made my Facebook status update yesterday: Yorktown 1781 New Orleans 1814/15 Belo Horizonte 1950 Rustenburg 2010 Any time, any place, anywhere! I figured somebody wouldn't get it, though, or nitpick and point out that the squad had a lot of Frenchmen at Yorktown, New Orleans turned out to be a meaningless friendly, Belo Horizonte was a fluke, and Rustenburg a draw. |