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From: Bruce D. Scott on 13 Jun 2010 19:46 William Clark (wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com) wrote: : Actually, I think the worst miss was Heskey's, when he was put in the : clear, and shot straight at Howard. A prima facie case of brawn before : brains - I can't see Messi making that mistake. But he did! Several great shots by him met great saves, but his last shot to get the 2-0, after running past most of the defense, was straight at the keeper when a little looper would have scored. Klose missed two like that today before his header broke his duck. -- ciao, Bruce drift wave turbulence: http://www.rzg.mpg.de/~bds/
From: higgs on 13 Jun 2010 20:15 On Jun 14, 4:38 am, Manx Gunner <goal(a)4thegunners!com> wrote: > On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 14:30:12 -0400, William Clark wrote... > > In article <MPG.267edf745d7fb8ff98d...(a)news-europe.giganews.com>, > > Manx Gunner <goal(a)4thegunners!com> wrote: > > > > On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 10:10:54 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Dave wrote... > > > > > Still, why > > > > let little things like facts get in the way of a good old fashioned > > > > anti-England rant eh? > > > > Get serious, FFS. The English media has been FILLED with pundits > > > whining that the England team should have won... all while managing to > > > completely disrespect the American team, slagging them off by stating > > > that England should beat them by 4, 5, or 6 goals. > > > Ah, the "English media". Always a reliable source of informed and > > unbiased opinion. I think you will find that most other people were a > > great deal more circumspect about this game than the tabloid press. > > Sky Sports > ITV > BBC > > They're not tabloid press.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Which would be why the OP reproduced the quote from the North Yeading Times, I suppose? If you wish to align yourself with someone who is whinging about England failing to ever win by more than 1 clear goal, feel free to hunt for fairies at the bottom of my garden
From: UnixDeveloper on 13 Jun 2010 20:19 William Clark, I am an England fan and I am telling you, England did not dominate that game. The OP is right. England had 86 minutes to get the second goal and they didn't. Heskey is terrible. If Owen or Torres had that opportunity, they would have scored. That's the difference between a great striker and a merely good striker. Great strikers are samrt as well. I believed in the hype created by the English media. After seeing the first 3 days, I don't see England going past the quarter-finals (due to the lucky draw) if at all.
From: Jellore on 13 Jun 2010 20:34 On Jun 14, 9:05 am, b...(a)ipp-garching.mpg.de (Bruce D. Scott) wrote: > Jellore (jell...(a)bigpond.com) wrote: > > : England failed to win the match because they wasted a number of good > : chances, inexcusable efforts from Lennon and Wright-Phillips....and > : of course perhaps the biggest goalkeeping blunder at a WC. > > Zubizzareta against Nigeria (the 2-2 in 1998) was comparable. Luis > Miguel Arconada (the 0-1 against France in Euro84) was arguable worse > since he had stopped the shot but elbowed the ball into his net while > getting up, and moreover it was in the Final and arguably decided it. > > There are lots of instances of teams not winning by being wasteful. In > that instance if they don't win they don't deserve to. Serbia comes to > mind. Lots of good play with miserable execution on the final pass or > shot attempt. And then they paid for it. > > But sure, we're the US and this is football so we don't get no respect > > -- > ciao, > Bruce > > drift wave turbulence: http://www.rzg.mpg.de/~bds/ Bruce I am not arguing that the US did not deserve their draw, because they did. I am simply stating that England were wasteful. Green was just incompetent.
From: Jellore on 13 Jun 2010 20:35
On Jun 14, 9:05 am, b...(a)ipp-garching.mpg.de (Bruce D. Scott) wrote: > Jellore (jell...(a)bigpond.com) wrote: > > : England failed to win the match because they wasted a number of good > : chances, inexcusable efforts from Lennon and Wright-Phillips....and > : of course perhaps the biggest goalkeeping blunder at a WC. > > Zubizzareta against Nigeria (the 2-2 in 1998) was comparable. Luis > Miguel Arconada (the 0-1 against France in Euro84) was arguable worse > since he had stopped the shot but elbowed the ball into his net while > getting up, and moreover it was in the Final and arguably decided it. > > There are lots of instances of teams not winning by being wasteful. In > that instance if they don't win they don't deserve to. Serbia comes to > mind. Lots of good play with miserable execution on the final pass or > shot attempt. And then they paid for it. > > But sure, we're the US and this is football so we don't get no respect > > -- > ciao, > Bruce > > drift wave turbulence: http://www.rzg.mpg.de/~bds/ I should have added that I have the greatest of respect for US footballers. I enjoy watching the MLS when I can. |