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From: Jellore on 13 Jun 2010 20:36 On Jun 14, 9:39 am, William Clark <wcla...(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote: > In article <hv3o7g$1gg...(a)gwdu112.gwdg.de>, > b...(a)ipp-garching.mpg.de (Bruce D. Scott) wrote: > > > > > > > Jellore (jell...(a)bigpond.com) wrote: > > > : England failed to win the match because they wasted a number of good > > : chances, inexcusable efforts from Lennon and Wright-Phillips....and > > : of course perhaps the biggest goalkeeping blunder at a WC. > > > Zubizzareta against Nigeria (the 2-2 in 1998) was comparable. Luis > > Miguel Arconada (the 0-1 against France in Euro84) was arguable worse > > since he had stopped the shot but elbowed the ball into his net while > > getting up, and moreover it was in the Final and arguably decided it. > > > There are lots of instances of teams not winning by being wasteful. In > > that instance if they don't win they don't deserve to. Serbia comes to > > mind. Lots of good play with miserable execution on the final pass or > > shot attempt. And then they paid for it. > > > But sure, we're the US and this is football so we don't get no respect > > > -- > > ciao, > > Bruce > > > drift wave turbulence: http://www.rzg.mpg.de/~bds/ > > Actually, I think the worst miss was Heskey's, when he was put in the > clear, and shot straight at Howard. A prima facie case of brawn before > brains - I can't see Messi making that mistake.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Agreed on reflection.
From: Bruce D. Scott on 13 Jun 2010 20:43 Jellore (jellore(a)bigpond.com) wrote: : Bruce I am not arguing that the US did not deserve their draw, because : they did. I am simply stating that England were wasteful. Green was : just incompetent. OK fair enough. It's like that sometimes for keepers who don't get enough action early. Lots of talk before hand and on the TV about James, but we all know he got his nickname for a reason. I agree if Heskey weren't a donkey England might have got the 2-1, but we have donkeys too :-) -- ciao, Bruce drift wave turbulence: http://www.rzg.mpg.de/~bds/
From: Ferris Mueller on 13 Jun 2010 23:41 Altidore had the best chance in the 2nd half of either team so England were lucky to draw as much as the US. But no it was Heskeys fault for not scoring or the keeper for not saving the shot or Lampard for continuisly passing the ball away or lenon for running around like a headless turkey or Terry for not defending... Every favoured team is under pressure do you think the Brazilians could play as poorly as England does and not get torn apart by the press? You Limes cling to every word the press spew out telling you how they are so great and 3rd favourite to win it all etc. then cry when your poor little darlings are under too much pressure from them. Algeria lost on a bad keeper mistake so they actually should really have tied the game acording to most of you? Bruce D. Scott wrote: > Jellore (jellore(a)bigpond.com) wrote: > > : Bruce I am not arguing that the US did not deserve their draw, because > : they did. I am simply stating that England were wasteful. Green was > : just incompetent. > > OK fair enough. It's like that sometimes for keepers who don't get > enough action early. Lots of talk before hand and on the TV about > James, but we all know he got his nickname for a reason. > > I agree if Heskey weren't a donkey England might have got the 2-1, but > we have donkeys too :-) > > -- > ciao, > Bruce > > drift wave turbulence: http://www.rzg.mpg.de/~bds/
From: Winston Smith, American Patriot on 13 Jun 2010 23:48 On Jun 14, 1:55 am, El Kot <nono.black.e...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Kaise...(a)gmail.com wrote: > > Jellore <jell...(a)bigpond.com> wrote: > > >> However if you are trying the claim that the US were the better team > >> on the night then you are just trolling, something I wouldn't put past > >> you.i > >> England failed to win the match because they wasted a number of good > >> chances, inexcusable efforts from Lennon and Wright-Phillips....and > >> of course perhaps the biggest goalkeeping blunder at a WC. > > > Well, that sure got everyone's attention! > > > I'm an American although, since I became a fan of international > > soccer long before the US was on the map (1974) and since I still > > don't think we can possibly win the WC, I never can quite decide how > > hard to root for my home country team. It was actually the New York > > Times that I was angry at, largely because it is an American newspaper > > and should have given credit to the team for a good performance > > instead of writing a headline implying that only an English blunder > > saved us. > > You should be happy with the way the New York Post printed it, then: > > http://www.mediaite.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/front061310.jpg The New York Post is not American. It is Rupert Murdoch trying to bring "journalism" which is the quality of The Sun---who in the UK dares to say they actually pay for a copy of The Sun---to the United States. Sure, he'll find American consumers of the New York Post...the kind who think George W. Bush and Tony Bliar (sic) were great leaders of their countries. Is there anyone on this planet who has a sense of shame who would be an employee of this creep?
From: Winston Smith, American Patriot on 13 Jun 2010 23:50
On Jun 14, 2:44 am, "Mark V." <markvande...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Jun 13, 3:55 pm, El Kot <nono.black.e...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Kaise...(a)gmail.com wrote: > > > Jellore <jell...(a)bigpond.com> wrote: > > > >> However if you are trying the claim that the US were the better team > > >> on the night then you are just trolling, something I wouldn't put past > > >> you.i > > >> England failed to win the match because they wasted a number of good > > >> chances, inexcusable efforts from Lennon and Wright-Phillips....and > > >> of course perhaps the biggest goalkeeping blunder at a WC. > > > > Well, that sure got everyone's attention! > > > > I'm an American although, since I became a fan of international > > > soccer long before the US was on the map (1974) and since I still > > > don't think we can possibly win the WC, I never can quite decide how > > > hard to root for my home country team. It was actually the New York > > > Times that I was angry at, largely because it is an American newspaper > > > and should have given credit to the team for a good performance > > > instead of writing a headline implying that only an English blunder > > > saved us. > > > You should be happy with the way the New York Post printed it, then: > > >http://www.mediaite.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/front061310.jpg > > > :) :) > > > -- > > No, no, you can't e-mail me with the nono. > > I nearly made my Facebook status update yesterday: > > Yorktown 1781 > New Orleans 1814/15 > Belo Horizonte 1950 > Rustenburg 2010 > > Any time, any place, anywhere! > > I figured somebody wouldn't get it, though, or nitpick and point out > that the squad had a lot of Frenchmen at Yorktown, New Orleans turned > out to be a meaningless friendly, Belo Horizonte was a fluke, and > Rustenburg a draw. Actually the British have had some victories. Gulf of Mexico 2010 (yes, I am kidding) |