From: Baldoni on
REDDEVIL6(a)nospam.net submitted this idea :
> On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 23:40:18 +0100, Baldoni
> <BaldoniXXV(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> Manx Gunner presented the following explanation :
>>> [BaldoniXXV(a)googlemail.com | Baldoni]
>>> [<82s66fFk0qU1(a)mid.individual.net>]
>>> [Fri, 16 Apr 2010 23:21:06 +0100]
>>>
>>>> You
>>>> succeeded in driving all our decent posters away with your bullshit.
>>>
>>> Subconsciously, Baldoni is self-aware.
>>
>> I will not converse with a grass and that is that. It seems for the
>> second time in my life that I will have to killfile someone.
>>
>> Where I come from a grass is the lowest of the low, hang your head in
>> shame filth.
>
> Not our fault that you come from the gutter backstreets of the East
> end where thugs and gangsters rule the day.

North London actually Drivel although the East End is a fine place
where I have family. I would prefer the East-enders and their code of
morals compared to you and your mates any day.

--
Count Baldoni

In hoc signo vinces


From: Baldoni on
Manx Gunner formulated the question :
> [BaldoniXXV(a)googlemail.com | Baldoni]
> [<82s7agFq09U1(a)mid.individual.net>]
> [Fri, 16 Apr 2010 23:40:18 +0100]
>
>>>> You
>>>> succeeded in driving all our decent posters away with your bullshit.
>>>
>>> Subconsciously, Baldoni is self-aware.
>>
>> I will not converse with a grass and that is that. It seems for the
>> second time in my life that I will have to killfile someone.
>
> Great! Thanks! :)

Farewell *Grass* and please note that you were unable to killfile me
like you said you would.

Dogbreath

--
Count Baldoni

In hoc signo vinces


From: Manx Gunner on
[BaldoniXXV(a)googlemail.com | Baldoni]
[<82s82dFto8U1(a)mid.individual.net>]
[Fri, 16 Apr 2010 23:53:03 +0100]

: Manx Gunner formulated the question :
: > [BaldoniXXV(a)googlemail.com | Baldoni]
: > [<82s7agFq09U1(a)mid.individual.net>]
: > [Fri, 16 Apr 2010 23:40:18 +0100]
: >
: >>>> You
: >>>> succeeded in driving all our decent posters away with your bullshit.
: >>>
: >>> Subconsciously, Baldoni is self-aware.
: >>
: >> I will not converse with a grass and that is that. It seems for the
: >> second time in my life that I will have to killfile someone.
: >
: > Great! Thanks! :)
:
: Farewell

Appreciate it! Have a nice life! =)
From: Legend-11 on
On 16/04/2010 22:37, Manx Gunner wrote:
> [REDDEVIL6(a)nospam.net | REDDEVIL6(a)nospam.net]
> [<bbhhs55d7ceqqunodq81ofk7dpulh7k446(a)4ax.com>]
> [Fri, 16 Apr 2010 16:15:55 -0400]
>
> :>To be fair there might be an argument to say that's probably our own
> :>fault. We perhaps never made the most of him and maybe could have shown
> :>more faith in him. He's the kind of player who likes to be liked....and
> :>he might not have been feeling the love from SAF. I mean look at him
> :>now....he's a different player.
> :>
> :>I know one thing, I struggle to put it down to a sudden finding of form. :/
> :
> : Big fish, little pond
>
> Oh come off it, RD, you know that's nonsense.
>
> If Mancini stays long-term, when people hear 'Manchester' with regard to
> football, they'll be thinking of a team in powder blue.

Pot, kettle...black. I'm sorry but that really proves how out of touch
you are with the English game. A run of success for a newly rich team
does not wipe out years of history of perhaps the most famous club in
the world. Forever and a day when people hear "Manchester" in terms of
football they will think of us....whatever City manage to achieve. And
that's without what will come later...

Now, do you think for a second that when the Glazers get bored that
there won't be a huge influx of cash into this club? Already Chinese
investors are sniffing around....and there's more money in China than
Russia and the Arab world put together. Personally, like all decent
United fans, I hope the Red Knight consortium are the ones to gain
control....and they would also have the funds for a huge cash injection,
but being a realist and observing modern trends I rather think it will
be investors from China. And when that happens City will not be the
richest club in the world any more. Manchester United and Real Madrid
are the two most prized possessions in the game, in the *world*. And if
United and City are competing on equal financial terms....it will be our
history which will be the deciding factor when a big signing comes
along. Already we have players with a little more self respect snubbing
Manchester City and Chelsea and looking in our direction.

Basically, IF they even get on our radar, it won't be for long. If you
stop to try and differentiate between ABU wishful thinking and what is
likely to happen based on common sense, you'd see it for yourself.

--
Legend-11
Forget about Ronaldo.
Your Carlos Tevez too.
'Cos we've got a player who's United through and through.
He just might tw*t your groundsman, and bomb down your wing,
He's French, he's fast, he's f*cking CLASS, so hear United sing:
Tra la laa, it's Patrice Evra, tra la laa laa laa laa laa...
From: Manx Gunner on
[Slitheen23(a)dropallthisgooglemail.com | Legend-11]
[<hqb4ds$j5r$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>]
[Sat, 17 Apr 2010 02:55:15 +0100]

:
: On 16/04/2010 22:37, Manx Gunner wrote:
: > [REDDEVIL6(a)nospam.net | REDDEVIL6(a)nospam.net]
: > [<bbhhs55d7ceqqunodq81ofk7dpulh7k446(a)4ax.com>]
: > [Fri, 16 Apr 2010 16:15:55 -0400]
: >
: > :>To be fair there might be an argument to say that's probably our own
: > :>fault. We perhaps never made the most of him and maybe could have shown
: > :>more faith in him. He's the kind of player who likes to be liked....and
: > :>he might not have been feeling the love from SAF. I mean look at him
: > :>now....he's a different player.
: > :>
: > :>I know one thing, I struggle to put it down to a sudden finding of form. :/
: > :
: > : Big fish, little pond
: >
: > Oh come off it, RD, you know that's nonsense.
: >
: > If Mancini stays long-term, when people hear 'Manchester' with regard to
: > football, they'll be thinking of a team in powder blue.
:
: Pot, kettle...black. I'm sorry but that really proves how out of touch
: you are with the English game.

Not remotely. Times change and the majority of fans, especially those in areas
where the EPL's reach is growing (eg. outside England) couldn't care less about
the rich history, etc. They care about who's winning now, and if Citeh become
the team who's winning more often, they'll become pre-eminent. Ferguson is not
going to be around forever, and he's been the one constant during MUFC's giant
run of success over the last two-plus decades.

: A run of success for a newly rich team
: does not wipe out years of history of perhaps the most famous club in
: the world. Forever and a day when people hear "Manchester" in terms of
: football they will think of us....whatever City manage to achieve. And
: that's without what will come later...

Many people outside of England (and many in England) think of Liverpool - the
most successful league side (for now) in English history - as a Cup team only.
That is what you get after two decades of futility.

: Now, do you think for a second that when the Glazers get bored that
: there won't be a huge influx of cash into this club? Already Chinese
: investors are sniffing around....and there's more money in China than
: Russia and the Arab world put together. Personally, like all decent
: United fans, I hope the Red Knight consortium are the ones to gain
: control....and they would also have the funds for a huge cash injection,

I hope that the Red Knights aren't playing you folks for a lot of fools, to be
honest with you. I don't like Manchester United, but I don't despise them
either and I don't think any fanbase deserves to be jerked around. The Red
Knights seem all holy now, particularly compared to the Glazers, but this is
big-time business and people in that arena tend to be pretty bloody ruthless.

It also doesn't seem like the Glazers like backing down from a fight. I wonder
very much if they wouldn't rather go into administration and ruin in 2013/14
(or whenever the money comes due and no further extensions/loans can help)
rather than admit defeat and be essentially exiled and forced out of MUFC.

: but being a realist and observing modern trends I rather think it will
: be investors from China. And when that happens City will not be the
: richest club in the world any more. Manchester United and Real Madrid
: are the two most prized possessions in the game, in the *world*. And if
: United and City are competing on equal financial terms....it will be our
: history which will be the deciding factor when a big signing comes
: along. Already we have players with a little more self respect snubbing
: Manchester City and Chelsea and looking in our direction.

I'm sorry, but the above is myopic. Players care about pound signs and the
zeroes which come after them. It's convenient to talk about tradition when the
club aspiring for such lofty aims is *also* the club doling out more money than
anyone else, but don't fool yourself... Manchester United doesn't get a
discount from players based on their burning desire to play at Old Trafford.

: Basically, IF they even get on our radar, it won't be for long. If you
: stop to try and differentiate between ABU wishful thinking and what is
: likely to happen based on common sense, you'd see it for yourself.

Spare me the ABU nonsense; it's a too-convenient excuse for deflection of
legitimate criticism and debate. If Arsenal don't win it, then I really don't
care much who win it, though I'd just as soon Chelsea win it this year if we
can't as I rather like Ancelotti (much to my surprise). I damned sure wouldn't
be pulling for Tottenham over Manchester United, nor Birmingham, etc.