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From: Baldoni on 5 May 2010 13:36 Mentalguy2k8 formulated on Wednesday : > "Red Rackham" <ONeil37(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:GKeEn.7542$BA6.4512(a)newsfe06.ams2... >> >> "bofh" <lancj2(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message >> news:2d970296-f835-4f34-b5f5-244805baf4db(a)b7g2000yqk.googlegroups.com... >>> On 4 May, 22:58, "Red Rackham" <ONei...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> ... That wasn't my one and only political thread. Here's another - >>>> probably >>>> my last. >>>> >>>> Vote Conservative if: >>>> >>>> You are a higher rate tax payer >>>> >>>> Don't care about the NHS >>>> >>> >>> Have you got even the slightest insight into how much money is being >>> slashed, now, and for the previous six months, from NHS budgets, by >>> the current government ? >>> >>> No, you dont - you wouldnt have posted that bollocks if you did >> >> >> Do you know people who work in the NHS Ted? >> >> I know lots and they're all, every single one, terrified of the Tories >> getting in. > > So you keep saying, but you still won't tell anyone why. > > Unless they're the army of pseudo-management who are sucking the resources > out of the NHS, in which case good riddance to them. I don't know what kind > of posters they have in their staff room, but I also know people who work in > the NHS, manly front-line, and I think it's fair to say they couldn't give a > shiny shite who wins the election. Labour's answer was to pour loads of money into the NHS regardless of whether it was a good thing or not. There are too many administrators and not enough medical professionals running the hospitals. They could have organised a much better strategy as opposed to pouring money in. It has not solved the problems that exist within the NHS. -- Count Baldoni
From: Baldoni on 5 May 2010 13:39 Mentalguy2k8 laid this down on his screen : > "Red Rackham" <ONeil37(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:_0gEn.363691$1j3.26164(a)newsfe10.ams2... >> >> "Mentalguy2k8" >> >> >>>> I know one middle management NHS worker. The rest are nurses, cleaners >>>> and porters. >>>> >>>> A lot of them will lose their jobs if they Tories get in tomorrow. >>> >>> Scaremongering bollocks. >> >> >> Yes, that's right, the Tories are the party of the NHS, they've never >> mistrusted it, always supported it and the NHS has always had more funding >> under the conservatives than Labour. >> >> Or is it exactly the other way round? >> >> As I've said, I know a lot of people who work for the NHS, but I expect you >> know best MG. >> >> Do you seriously think the NHS is better off under a govt who will cut >> public services than a govt who supports them? >> >> >> >>> >>> Post some proof. Proof that the Tories will sack nurses, cleaners and >>> porters, and will cut NHS funding to the level that Labour are/were >>> planning to. >> >> >> What kind of thing did you have in mind? I do have a leaked memo from >> Cameron's office but my scanner's on the blink. >> >> FFS. >> >> There will be cuts to the NHS whoever gets in tomorrow. They have to fill >> the hole from somehere. But you only have to look back over the last 50 >> years to know that Labour backs the NHS and the Tories don't. >> >> Labour believes in taxing to fund public services and the Tories don't. >> Labour believes in helping the poorer members of society and the Tories >> believe in every man for himself. >> >> None of the above is a secret. It's their policies. >> >> If you really think the NHS is better off under the Tories then you really >> are naive. >> >> Unless you can post some solid reasoning behind your confidence. > > I don't need to post anything mate, I'm not the one making wild claims about > what I claim to *know* about what is going to happen *in the future*. > > You don't have any proof of your claims, so we'll leave it there. He asks people to post proof when all the time he can't because his printer is on the blink. -- Count Baldoni
From: Baldoni on 5 May 2010 13:42 on 05/05/2010, Diablos Rojos supposed : > "Red Rackham" <ONeil37(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:BM0En.39460$rk7.35654(a)newsfe27.ams2... > > > > You're fighting a losing battle, the country is once again in a state due to > being governed by labour, all looked rosey the first few years whilst they > lived off the good financial policies put in place by the conservatives. > When called to put their own policies in place because of the globally > changing face of economics which placed London firmly as the epicentre they > gambled and got greedy and fucked it right up. > > Not to mention, crime, immigration, parts of the British Isles being given > their own governance and milking good old England dry whilst England > struggles under the weight of not only financing them but the swarm of > parasitic ne'r do wells who swarm here for handouts from the far flung > corners of the world. Whoever wins this election as the governing party will find out the job is a poisoned chalice. There are so many harsh cuts to make that the governing party will be kept out of power in subsequent elections for about a generation. -- Count Baldoni
From: Lawrence Jenkins on 5 May 2010 13:46 "Baldoni" <BaldoniXXV(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message news:84dovrFb2hU1(a)mid.individual.net... > on 05/05/2010, Diablos Rojos supposed : >> "Red Rackham" <ONeil37(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:BM0En.39460$rk7.35654(a)newsfe27.ams2... >> >> >> >> You're fighting a losing battle, the country is once again in a state due >> to >> being governed by labour, all looked rosey the first few years whilst >> they >> lived off the good financial policies put in place by the conservatives. >> When called to put their own policies in place because of the globally >> changing face of economics which placed London firmly as the epicentre >> they >> gambled and got greedy and fucked it right up. >> >> Not to mention, crime, immigration, parts of the British Isles being >> given >> their own governance and milking good old England dry whilst England >> struggles under the weight of not only financing them but the swarm of >> parasitic ne'r do wells who swarm here for handouts from the far flung >> corners of the world. > > Whoever wins this election as the governing party will find out the job is > a poisoned chalice. There are so many harsh cuts to make that the > governing party will be kept out of power in subsequent elections for > about a generation. > > -- > Count Baldoni > > Now that is a fact.
From: Red Rackham on 5 May 2010 13:51
"Mentalguy2k8" <Mentalguy2k8(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:3rhEn.34540$G27.7689(a)newsfe30.ams2... > > "Red Rackham" <ONeil37(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:_0gEn.363691$1j3.26164(a)newsfe10.ams2... >> >> "Mentalguy2k8" >> >> >>>> I know one middle management NHS worker. The rest are nurses, cleaners >>>> and porters. >>>> >>>> A lot of them will lose their jobs if they Tories get in tomorrow. >>> >>> Scaremongering bollocks. >> >> >> Yes, that's right, the Tories are the party of the NHS, they've never >> mistrusted it, always supported it and the NHS has always had more >> funding under the conservatives than Labour. >> >> Or is it exactly the other way round? >> >> As I've said, I know a lot of people who work for the NHS, but I expect >> you know best MG. >> >> Do you seriously think the NHS is better off under a govt who will cut >> public services than a govt who supports them? >> >> >> >>> >>> Post some proof. Proof that the Tories will sack nurses, cleaners and >>> porters, and will cut NHS funding to the level that Labour are/were >>> planning to. >> >> >> What kind of thing did you have in mind? I do have a leaked memo from >> Cameron's office but my scanner's on the blink. >> >> FFS. >> >> There will be cuts to the NHS whoever gets in tomorrow. They have to fill >> the hole from somehere. But you only have to look back over the last 50 >> years to know that Labour backs the NHS and the Tories don't. >> >> Labour believes in taxing to fund public services and the Tories don't. >> Labour believes in helping the poorer members of society and the Tories >> believe in every man for himself. >> >> None of the above is a secret. It's their policies. >> >> If you really think the NHS is better off under the Tories then you >> really are naive. >> >> Unless you can post some solid reasoning behind your confidence. > > I don't need to post anything mate, I'm not the one making wild claims > about what I claim to *know* about what is going to happen *in the > future*. You can usually see what's going to happen in the future by studying things that have happened in the past. This is particularly true of politics. If a party creates the NHS, funds it, believes in it for nearly 70 years, they are more likely, 'in the future', to do their best for it. If there's another party that has historically mistrusted the NHS, said that everyone should buy their own health insurance, has starved the NHS of funds and has stated they are the party of low taxation, they are less likely to put money into it in the future. This isn't scaremongering, it doesn't involve phsychic powers, it's just listening to what politicians say and watching what they do. > > You don't have any proof of your claims, so we'll leave it there. Can you give one reason why you think public services will be better off under the Tories than Labour? |