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From: Red Rackham on 5 May 2010 11:39 "Diablos Rojos" <diablos_r0j0s(spam)@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:84dh9gFpl9U1(a)mid.individual.net... > > "Red Rackham" <ONeil37(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:R4gEn.363694$1j3.113621(a)newsfe10.ams2... >> >> "Diablos Rojos" <diablos_r0j0s(spam)@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> news:84dcf9FrulU1(a)mid.individual.net... >>> >>> "Red Rackham" <ONeil37(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:nNeEn.7544$BA6.1781(a)newsfe06.ams2... >>>> >>>> "Diablos Rojos" <diablos_r0j0s(spam)@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>> news:84cnf1FrjqU1(a)mid.individual.net... >>>>> >>>>> "Red Rackham" <ONeil37(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:BM0En.39460$rk7.35654(a)newsfe27.ams2... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> You're fighting a losing battle, the country is once again in a state >>>>> due to >>>>> being governed by labour, all looked rosey the first few years whilst >>>>> they >>>>> lived off the good financial policies put in place by the >>>>> conservatives. >>>>> When called to put their own policies in place because of the globally >>>>> changing face of economics which placed London firmly as the epicentre >>>>> they >>>>> gambled and got greedy and fucked it right up. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> You do know that this recession isn't half as bad as the Tory-run >>>> recession of the 80s, don't you? >>>> >>> >>> Tory run.... during the rebuilding of the country you mean after Labour >>> systematically bankrupted the UK and made UK PLC a worldwide joke. >>> >> >> >>> >>>> And you do understand that it's the Tories who are the bankers friends >>>> and it's the Tories who would have let them run even wilder? >>>> >>> >>> But they didn't the laws and checks and measures were relaxed by labour. >>> >>>> Do you think one single investment banker will be voting anything but >>>> Tory? >>>> >>> >>> Yes >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Not to mention, crime, immigration, parts of the British Isles being >>>>> given >>>>> their own governance and milking good old England dry whilst England >>>>> struggles under the weight of not only financing them but the swarm of >>>>> parasitic ne'r do wells who swarm here for handouts from the far flung >>>>> corners of the world. >>>> >>>> >>>> The second the Tories take control thousands of police, teachers, >>>> nurses and other public sector workers will lose their jobs. This isn't >>>> scare-mongering, this is fact. >>>> >>> >>> well apart from the fact that's completely fabricated and not at all >>> fact. >> >> >> >> Yes, that's right, the Tories are well known supporters of public >> services and aren't a party of low taxation. Where do you think their >> cuts will come from? >> >> This is the problem, so many will go out and vote Tory tomorrow without >> the least clue about their policies. >> > > How very condescending of you, if only we were all as enlightened as you > regards to politics.... (and everything come to think of it) > > Sorry did I say enlightened... I meant brainwashed by imaginary facts and > spin from the most deceitful government we've ever had. You must be right. You're enlightened and I'm brainwashed. And yet you're in denial of the Tories history as regards the NHS and public services in general.
From: Mentalguy2k8 on 5 May 2010 12:55 "Red Rackham" <ONeil37(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:_0gEn.363691$1j3.26164(a)newsfe10.ams2... > > "Mentalguy2k8" > > >>> I know one middle management NHS worker. The rest are nurses, cleaners >>> and porters. >>> >>> A lot of them will lose their jobs if they Tories get in tomorrow. >> >> Scaremongering bollocks. > > > Yes, that's right, the Tories are the party of the NHS, they've never > mistrusted it, always supported it and the NHS has always had more funding > under the conservatives than Labour. > > Or is it exactly the other way round? > > As I've said, I know a lot of people who work for the NHS, but I expect > you know best MG. > > Do you seriously think the NHS is better off under a govt who will cut > public services than a govt who supports them? > > > >> >> Post some proof. Proof that the Tories will sack nurses, cleaners and >> porters, and will cut NHS funding to the level that Labour are/were >> planning to. > > > What kind of thing did you have in mind? I do have a leaked memo from > Cameron's office but my scanner's on the blink. > > FFS. > > There will be cuts to the NHS whoever gets in tomorrow. They have to fill > the hole from somehere. But you only have to look back over the last 50 > years to know that Labour backs the NHS and the Tories don't. > > Labour believes in taxing to fund public services and the Tories don't. > Labour believes in helping the poorer members of society and the Tories > believe in every man for himself. > > None of the above is a secret. It's their policies. > > If you really think the NHS is better off under the Tories then you really > are naive. > > Unless you can post some solid reasoning behind your confidence. I don't need to post anything mate, I'm not the one making wild claims about what I claim to *know* about what is going to happen *in the future*. You don't have any proof of your claims, so we'll leave it there.
From: Mentalguy2k8 on 5 May 2010 12:57 "Red Rackham" <ONeil37(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:l2gEn.363693$1j3.234940(a)newsfe10.ams2... > > "Mentalguy2k8" <Mentalguy2k8(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > news:zVeEn.397814$0t.87471(a)newsfe17.ams2... >> >> "Red Rackham" <ONeil37(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:nNeEn.7544$BA6.1781(a)newsfe06.ams2... >>> >>> "Diablos Rojos" <diablos_r0j0s(spam)@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>> news:84cnf1FrjqU1(a)mid.individual.net... >>>> >>>> "Red Rackham" <ONeil37(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>> news:BM0En.39460$rk7.35654(a)newsfe27.ams2... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> You're fighting a losing battle, the country is once again in a state >>>> due to >>>> being governed by labour, all looked rosey the first few years whilst >>>> they >>>> lived off the good financial policies put in place by the >>>> conservatives. >>>> When called to put their own policies in place because of the globally >>>> changing face of economics which placed London firmly as the epicentre >>>> they >>>> gambled and got greedy and fucked it right up. >>> >>> >>> >>> You do know that this recession isn't half as bad as the Tory-run >>> recession of the 80s, don't you? >>> >>> And you do understand that it's the Tories who are the bankers friends >>> and it's the Tories who would have let them run even wilder? >>> >>> Do you think one single investment banker will be voting anything but >>> Tory? >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Not to mention, crime, immigration, parts of the British Isles being >>>> given >>>> their own governance and milking good old England dry whilst England >>>> struggles under the weight of not only financing them but the swarm of >>>> parasitic ne'r do wells who swarm here for handouts from the far flung >>>> corners of the world. >>> >>> >>> The second the Tories take control thousands of police, teachers, nurses >>> and other public sector workers will lose their jobs. This isn't >>> scare-mongering, this is fact. >> >> The second they take power?? And you're telling us this is fact??? >> >> Stop screaming like a hormonal woman, calm down and take some deep >> breaths FFS. > > > Or we could actually discuss this like grown ups. How can we discuss this like grown-ups? You're claiming you can see the future. I'm saying you can't. If you can post some solid evidence that what you are predicting is 100% going to happen, then I'll discuss it maturely.
From: Mentalguy2k8 on 5 May 2010 12:57 "Red Rackham" <ONeil37(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:H1gEn.363692$1j3.50940(a)newsfe10.ams2... > > "Mentalguy2k8" <Mentalguy2k8(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > news:zVeEn.397813$0t.374608(a)newsfe17.ams2... >> >> "Red Rackham" <ONeil37(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:YNeEn.7545$BA6.853(a)newsfe06.ams2... >>> >>> "Mentalguy2k8" <Mentalguy2k8(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:zjeEn.397806$0t.170702(a)newsfe17.ams2... >>>> >>>> "Red Rackham" <ONeil37(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>> news:BM0En.39460$rk7.35654(a)newsfe27.ams2... >>>>> ... That wasn't my one and only political thread. Here's another - >>>>> probably my last. >>>>> >>>>> Vote Conservative if: >>>>> >>>>> You are a higher rate tax payer >>>>> >>>>> Don't care about the NHS >>>>> >>>>> Don't care about public services >>>>> >>>>> Like the idea of being governed by an old Etonian who literally >>>>> doesn't understand anyone who isn't posh >>>>> >>>>> Think George Osbourne has the intelligence and experience to get the >>>>> country out of its financial problems >>>>> >>>>> Want to be incredibly depressed for at least the next 5 years >>>>> >>>>> Everyone else - Vote Labour! >>>> >>>> Is it just me, or is there a strong smell of desperation in the air? >>>> >>>> Yet another Labour Party Political Broadcast that's all smear and >>>> absolutely no truth. Enjoy the next 16 years of being in opposition, >>>> losers. That's if the LibDems don't become the official opposition >>>> after tomorrow..... >>> >>> >>> Care to debate the lack of truth point by point? >> >> You posted the claims, so it's up to you to prove them. Like Popey is >> asked to. Just keep in mind all the sources that you've previously said >> are unreliable. > > > I didn't ask you to disprove them. Just tackle them one by one. Post concrete proof and I'll tackle them.
From: Lawrence Jenkins on 5 May 2010 13:31
"Red Rackham" <ONeil37(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:nNeEn.7544$BA6.1781(a)newsfe06.ams2... > > "Diablos Rojos" <diablos_r0j0s(spam)@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:84cnf1FrjqU1(a)mid.individual.net... >> >> "Red Rackham" <ONeil37(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:BM0En.39460$rk7.35654(a)newsfe27.ams2... >> >> >> >> You're fighting a losing battle, the country is once again in a state due >> to >> being governed by labour, all looked rosey the first few years whilst >> they >> lived off the good financial policies put in place by the conservatives. >> When called to put their own policies in place because of the globally >> changing face of economics which placed London firmly as the epicentre >> they >> gambled and got greedy and fucked it right up. > > > > You do know that this recession isn't half as bad as the Tory-run > recession of the 80s, don't you? > > And you do understand that it's the Tories who are the bankers friends and > it's the Tories who would have let them run even wilder? > > Do you think one single investment banker will be voting anything but > Tory? > > >> >> Not to mention, crime, immigration, parts of the British Isles being >> given >> their own governance and milking good old England dry whilst England >> struggles under the weight of not only financing them but the swarm of >> parasitic ne'r do wells who swarm here for handouts from the far flung >> corners of the world. > > > The second the Tories take control thousands of police, teachers, nurses > and other public sector workers will lose their jobs. This isn't > scare-mongering, this is fact. > Public spending has to stop we cannot go on sustaining debt. The Labour Party in particular has allowed the sink estate folk to spend all their days getting addled, pregnant, breeding fighting dogs and making good peoples lives utterly miserable. To cover this life style choice labour shortage the Labour party has allowed millions into the country to pick up the work that our lazy fuckers don't want. Also our sink estate idiots don't really vote unless Jeremy Kyle is standing and the people that are legal that have come here will vote Labour all day long. So we have a big big problem. 8 million registered incapacity to work, Income support or forever and ever job seekers allowance add on to that the horrendous Housing Benefit Bill and DLA which has been given almost to anyone the ticks theright boxes on the application forms you can then see how bad its got. |