From: milivella on
MH:

> milivella wrote:
> > ...and, finally, Spain:
>
> > *  = pickable in Fantasy Scout
> > ** = picked in Fantasy Scout
>
> >    Iker Casillas
> > ** David de Gea - Riccardo (after May 11)
> > *  Diego López
> >    Pepe Reina
> > *  Víctor Valdés
>
> CUT: De Gea and Lopez

Thanks for the info.

> >    Xabi Alonso
> > ** Sergio Busquets - Enzo
> > ** Santi Cazorla - Daniele
> >    Cesc Fabregas
> >    Xavi Hernández
> >    Andrés Iniesta
> > ** Javi Martínez - Michael H.
> > ** Juan Mata - Michael H.
> > ** Jesús Navas
> > ** Pedro Rodríguez - Mattia
> >    Marcos Senna
> >    David Silva
>
> CUT: Senna, Cazorla,

Cazorla? Didn't see it coming.

> > ** Dani Güiza - Daniele
> > ** Álvaro Negredo - Andrea V.
> > ** Fernando Llorente - Enzp
> >    Fernando Torres
> >    David Villa
>
> CUT: Guiza, Negredo

Daniele, while (we) two dispute, the third enjoys!

> Sometimes footballl does not suck !

:)

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From: Futbolmetrix on
"MH" <MHnospam(a)ucalgary.ca> wrote in message
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> milivella wrote:
>
> CUT: Cazorla,
>
> CUT: Guiza
>

Aaargh!!!

> Sometimes footballl does not suck !

Football sometimes reaches levels of suckitude that human beings cannot even
fathom. This week, with its inevitable conclusion, is one of them.

D


From: milivella on
Futbolmetrix:

> "MH" <MHnos...(a)ucalgary.ca> wrote in message
>
> news:ht3nt1$610$1(a)news.ucalgary.ca...
>
> > milivella wrote:
>
> > CUT: Cazorla,
>
> > CUT: Guiza
>
> Aaargh!!!

Now you know how I felt reading Maradona's list... BTW, the top 3
Fantasy Scout players (i.e. the ones with most caps+goals in this
cycle!) are out of the WC: Gago, Cazorla, Guiza. Then one of
Quagliarella and Rossi (eventually both) could be axed as well. Out of
the top 6, only Pique is safe. Odd?

> > Sometimes footballl does not suck !
>
> Football sometimes reaches levels of suckitude that human beings cannot even
> fathom.

One of the few times I literally laughed out loud! (thanks)

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From: FF on
milivella wrote:
> ...and, finally, Spain:
>
> * = pickable in Fantasy Scout
> ** = picked in Fantasy Scout
>
> Iker Casillas
> ** David de Gea - Riccardo (after May 11)
> * Diego López
> Pepe Reina
> * Víctor Valdés
>
> Raúl Albiol
> ** Álvaro Arbeloa - William
> César Azpilicueta - Nigel
> Joan Capdevila
> Carlos Marchena
> ** Gerard Piqué
> Carles Puyol
> Sergio Ramos
>
> Xabi Alonso
> ** Sergio Busquets - Enzo
> ** Santi Cazorla - Daniele
> Cesc Fabregas
> Xavi Hernández
> Andrés Iniesta
> ** Javi Martínez - Michael H.
> ** Juan Mata - Michael H.
> ** Jesús Navas
> ** Pedro Rodríguez - Mattia
> Marcos Senna
> David Silva
>
> ** Dani Güiza - Daniele
> ** Álvaro Negredo - Andrea V.
> ** Fernando Llorente - Enzp
> Fernando Torres
> David Villa

The monster.
I don't think I remember any squad with so many world class players in
it. Brazil are pale in comparison, no other present team comes close.
Best keeper in the world, both reserves would fit into the first 3 in
any squad and would be first choice in most squads.
Del Bosque might not be the best coach but he has shown that he can
get results with a strong team. Which he now definitely has.
Do they have any weakness ? Too small overall maybe ?
Of course, being Spain they could always choke, but judging by what
they've shown at the Euro it won't happen.
Clear favorite if you ask me. (Hopefully the refs won't be too much
against them this time.)
From: MH on
FF wrote:
> milivella wrote:
>> ...and, finally, Spain:
>>
>> * = pickable in Fantasy Scout
>> ** = picked in Fantasy Scout
>>
>> Iker Casillas
>> ** David de Gea - Riccardo (after May 11)
>> * Diego L�pez
>> Pepe Reina
>> * V�ctor Vald�s
>>
>> Ra�l Albiol
>> ** �lvaro Arbeloa - William
>> C�sar Azpilicueta - Nigel
>> Joan Capdevila
>> Carlos Marchena
>> ** Gerard Piqu�
>> Carles Puyol
>> Sergio Ramos
>>
>> Xabi Alonso
>> ** Sergio Busquets - Enzo
>> ** Santi Cazorla - Daniele
>> Cesc Fabregas
>> Xavi Hern�ndez
>> Andr�s Iniesta
>> ** Javi Mart�nez - Michael H.
>> ** Juan Mata - Michael H.
>> ** Jes�s Navas
>> ** Pedro Rodr�guez - Mattia
>> Marcos Senna
>> David Silva
>>
>> ** Dani G�iza - Daniele
>> ** �lvaro Negredo - Andrea V.
>> ** Fernando Llorente - Enzp
>> Fernando Torres
>> David Villa
>
> The monster.
> I don't think I remember any squad with so many world class players in
> it. Brazil are pale in comparison, no other present team comes close.
> Best keeper in the world, both reserves would fit into the first 3 in
> any squad and would be first choice in most squads.
> Del Bosque might not be the best coach but he has shown that he can
> get results with a strong team. Which he now definitely has.
> Do they have any weakness ? Too small overall maybe ?
> Of course, being Spain they could always choke, but judging by what
> they've shown at the Euro it won't happen.
> Clear favorite if you ask me. (Hopefully the refs won't be too much
> against them this time.)

With Senna, Guiza, Negredo, etc. all being cut, we can look at this
squad more clearly.

I am less sanguine about their strengths than you are. The problems I
see, in order of importance, are:

1) Not enough depth at forward. Pedro is still young, Torres injury
prone, and Villa picks up cards. Llorente has not yet been tested much.
Both Iniesta and Frabregas still coming back from injury, not that they
are forwards, but they are players that would allow Villa to play as a
sole forward.

2) Not enough muscle in midfield. No Senna, and I don't see Busquets as
the answer. Javi Martinez might be the future there, but he is
completely untried. Would not be surprised to see Albiol or Marchena
show up in midfield as a late game sub when Spain are winning.

3) Where to play Puyol ? He is still a good player and inspirational,
but he is not as good a defender as Pique or Albiol right now in the
middle. The smart thing might be to play him as a right back, leaving
Ramos on the bench.

4) Not enough defenders in the squad. I count only 7, which seems too
few given the propensity of defenders to pick up injuries and
suspensions. As far as I know none of the midfielders has played much
in defence. I can see that Del Bosque might feel he can get away with
only 7 given that several of them are very flexible - Puyol has played
left and right back for Spain in the past, Arbeloa has played on both
sides, Ramos right back and in the middle, and both Marchena and Albiol
have considerable experience as central midfielders. However, they may
be stretched at this position over a long tournament.