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From: milivella on 13 May 2010 10:18
milivella:

> Another simple statistic... Here players are ranked by their average
> position in two tables: the goalscorer one and the league one (the
> latter is for teams, of course).

I've computed the UCL rankings since 1999-2000. And, to reward
consistency, I have computed a mobile average.

Let me explain how it all works by the means of an example:
- In 1999-2000, Mario Jardel is the (joint) UCL top scorer: he is 1st
in this ranking.
- His team (Porto) reaches quarter-finals, so they are (joint) 5th.
- For the 1999-2000 ranking, Mario Jardel has (1+5)/2 = 3 points.
- He's 3rd in this ranking, because Raul has 1 point (less is better)
and Rivaldo 2.
- This 3rd place in the seasonal ranking becomes 3 points for the
mobile ranking.
- The mobile average is in fact the average between the seasonal
position and the previous mobile average.
- Since 1999-2000 is the first year, Jardel has, live every other
player, a fixed previous mobile average of 16 points (because I
consider only the top 15 players from the seasonal ranking).
- So in the mobile ranking, Jardel has (16+3)/2 = 9.50 points.
- In 2000-2001, he is 2nd in the scorer table, his team (Galatasaray)
is 5th, so he has 3.5 points; but 4 players has less points (Elber,
Raúl, Bowyer, Helguera), so he's 5th in the seasonal ranking. In the
mobile ranking, he'll have (9.50+5)/2 = 7.25 points.

Does it sound complex? Don't know, but it's very quick and easy to
compute. Anyway, you just need to know that to top this ranking a
player must score a lot of goals, his team must reach the final
stages, and both these conditions must be realized year after year.

Finally, the mobile ranking (top 10 players in order):

* = in FIFA World Player top 10
** = FIFA World Player of the year!
+ = in Ballon d'Or top 10
++ = Ballon d'Or!

After 1999-2000 [obviously the same as the seasonal ranking]
Raúl +
Rivaldo * +
Mario Jardel
Simone Inzaghi
Fernando Morientes
Patrick Kluivert
Paulo Sergio
Tore Andre Flo
Luis Enrique
Roy Keane

After 2000-01
Raúl * +
Mario Jardel
Giovane Elber
Ivan Helguera
Lee Bowyer
Paul Scholes
Luis Figo ** +
Juan Sánchez
Rivaldo * +
Alan Smith

After 2001-02
Raúl * +
Giovane Elber
Ruud van Nistelrooij
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer
Patrick Kluivert
Michael Ballack * +
Diego Tristán
Michalis Constantinou
Mario Jardel
Oliver Neuville

After 2002-03
Raúl * +
Filippo Inzaghi
Patrick Kluivert
Alessandro Del Piero
Guti
Hernan Crespo
Ruud van Nistelrooij * +
Jan Koller
Javier Saviola
Thierry Henry * +

After 2003-04
Thierry Henry * +
Fernando Morientes
Dado Prso
Walter Pandiani
Benni McCarthy
Juninho (Pernambucano)
Roy Makaay
Raúl +
Ludovic Giuly
Ruud van Nistelrooij * +

After 2004-05
Roy Makaay
Hernan Crespo
Andrii Shevchenko * +
Thierry Henry * +
Ruud van Nistelrooij
Adriano * +
Luis Garcia
Sylvain Wiltord
Didier Drogba *
Fernando Morientes

After 2005-06
Andrii Shevchenko
Thierry Henry * +
Adriano
Ronaldinho * +
Samuel Eto'o * +
Kaká *
David Trezeguet
Juninho (Pernambucano)
Filippo Inzaghi
Roy Makaay

After 2006-07
Kaká ** ++
Filippo Inzaghi
Didier Drogba * +
Peter Crouch
Fernando Morientes
Andrii Shevchenko
Ruud van Nistelrooij +
Louis Saha
Wayne Rooney
Thierry Henry *

After 2007-08
Didier Drogba
Cristiano Ronaldo ** ++
Steven Gerrard * +
Fernando Torres * +
Lionel Messi * +
Wayne Rooney
Kaká * +
Dirk Kuyt
Ryan Babel

After 2008-09
Didier Drogba * +
Lionel Messi ** ++
Steven Gerrard * +
Thierry Henry
Cristiano Ronaldo * +
Wayne Rooney * +
Miroslav Klose
Samuel Eto'o * +
Lisandro López
Dimitar Berbatov

After 2009-10
....in 10 days. I guess that Messi will grab the top spot.

At least for the most recent seasons, I quite like the ranking. (Just
to avoid misinterpretations: this is not due to the mobile average
producing better and better results! Only the data of the last 3 years
or so really count, so if it's a good method it should produce good
results since the 2001-02 ranking.) Your opinion?

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Extra: the volatile ;) seasonal ranking (top 3 players)

2000: 1. Raúl 2. Rivaldo 3. Mario Jardel
2001: 1. Giovane Elber 2. Raúl 3. Lee Bowyer, Ivan Helguera
2002: 1. Ruud van Nistelrooij 2. Ole Gunnar Solskjaer 3. Raúl
2003: 1. Filippo Inzaghi 2. Hernan Crespo, Raúl, Ruud van Nistelrooij
2004: 1. Fernando Morientes 2. Dado Prso 3. Walter Pandiani
2005: 1. Hernan Crespo 2. Andrii Shevchenko 3. Roy Makaay, Adriano
2006: 1. Ronaldinho 2. Andrii Shevchenko, Samuel Eto'o
2007: 1. Kaká 2. Peter Crouch 3. Didier Drogba
2008: 1. Cristiano Ronaldo 2. Didier Drogba 3. Lionel Messi, Steven
Gerrard, Fernando Torres
2009: 1. Lionel Messi 2. Thierry Henry 3. Miroslav Klose, Steven
Gerrard

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Cheers
milivella
From: milivella on 13 May 2010 19:39
milivella:

> Finally, the mobile ranking (top 10 players in order):
>
> * = in FIFA World Player top 10
> ** = FIFA World Player of the year!
> + = in Ballon d'Or top 10
> ++ = Ballon d'Or!

OK, but which forwards that were in FIFA WP or BdO top 10 are missing
from my ranking? (let me skip the first two seasons, that should be
considered just as a "training" for the mobile average)

[I'm also correcting a crazy error I made in the 2002-03 season]

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> After 2001-02
> Raúl * +
> Giovane Elber
> Ruud van Nistelrooij
> Ole Gunnar Solskjaer
> Patrick Kluivert
> Michael Ballack * +
> Diego Tristán
> Michalis Constantinou
> Mario Jardel
> Oliver Neuville
Henry + * is actually tied 10th!

Ronaldo ** ++
Rivaldo * + (19th in my ranking)
Owen *
Del Piero +

---

> After 2002-03
> Raúl * +
> Ruud van Nistelrooij * +
> Filippo Inzaghi
> Hernan Crespo
> Javier Saviola
> Patrick Kluivert
> Ronaldo *
> Thierry Henry * +
> Alessandro Del Piero
> Giovane Elber

Shevchenko * +

---

> After 2003-04
> Thierry Henry * +
> Fernando Morientes
> Dado Prso
> Walter Pandiani
> Raúl
> Ruud van Nistelrooij * +
> Benni McCarthy
> Juninho (Pernambucano)
> Roy Makaay
> Ludovic Giuly

Ronaldinho ++ *
Shevchenko + ** (18th in my ranking)
Adriano + *
Ronaldo + (13th in my ranking)
Kaká + (19th in my ranking)
Rooney + *

---

> After 2004-05
> Roy Makaay
> Hernan Crespo
> Andrii Shevchenko * +
> Ruud van Nistelrooij
> Thierry Henry * +
> Adriano * +
> Luis Garcia
> Sylvain Wiltord
> Didier Drogba *
> Fernando Morientes

Ronaldinho ** ++
Eto'o * +
Kakà * + (26th in my ranking)
Ibrahimovic +

---

> After 2005-06
> Andrii Shevchenko
> Thierry Henry * +
> Adriano
> Ronaldinho * +
> Samuel Eto'o * +
> Kaká *
> David Trezeguet
> Juninho (Pernambucano)
> Filippo Inzaghi
> Roy Makaay

Drogba * + (18th in my ranking)
Ibrahimovic * (21st in my ranking)
Cristiano Ronaldo *
Klose +

---

> After 2006-07
> Kaká ** ++
> Filippo Inzaghi
> Didier Drogba * +
> Peter Crouch
> Fernando Morientes
> Ruud van Nistelrooij +
> Andrii Shevchenko
> Louis Saha
> Wayne Rooney
> Thierry Henry *

Messi * +
Cristiano Ronaldo * +
Ronaldinho * (12th in my ranking)
Ibrahimovic +
Robinho +
Totti + (16th in my ranking)

---

> After 2007-08
> Didier Drogba
> Cristiano Ronaldo ** ++
> Steven Gerrard * +
> Fernando Torres * +
> Lionel Messi * +
> Wayne Rooney
> Kaká * +
> Dirk Kuyt
> Ryan Babel

Eto'o * (25th in my ranking)
Villa * + (25th in my ranking)
Ibrahimovic + (20th in my ranking)

---

> After 2008-09
> Didier Drogba * +
> Lionel Messi ** ++
> Steven Gerrard * +
> Thierry Henry
> Cristiano Ronaldo * +
> Wayne Rooney * +
> Miroslav Klose
> Samuel Eto'o * +
> Lisandro López
> Dimitar Berbatov

Kakà * + (12th in my ranking)
Torres * (11th in my ranking)
Ibrahimovic + (31st in my ranking)

---

Quick analysis: sometimes the player enter in my next ranking. This
(while it could be partially caused by the fact that FIFA WP and BdO
are assigned after the first half of the next season) probably shows
that my rankings are too conservative.

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milivella
From: milivella on 14 May 2010 03:06
milivella:

> milivella:
>
> > Finally, the mobile ranking (top 10 players in order):
>
> > * = in FIFA World Player top 10
> > ** = FIFA World Player of the year!
> > + = in Ballon d'Or top 10
> > ++ = Ballon d'Or!
>
> OK, but which forwards that were in FIFA WP or BdO top 10 are missing
> from my ranking?

It looks like some of them are in top positions in the mobile average
*national league* ranking (the leagues here are basically EPL, Liga
and Serie A). Take e.g. 2008-09:

> > Didier Drogba * +
> > Lionel Messi ** ++
> > Steven Gerrard * +
> > Thierry Henry
> > Cristiano Ronaldo * +
> > Wayne Rooney * +
> > Miroslav Klose
> > Samuel Eto'o * +
> > Lisandro López
> > Dimitar Berbatov
>
> Kakà * + (12th in my ranking)
> Torres * (11th in my ranking)
> Ibrahimovic + (31st in my ranking)

The top 10 players in the mobile average national league rankings are:

Cristiano Ronaldo
-> Z. Ibrahimovic
S. Eto'o
D. Forlán
-> Fernando Torres
W. Rooney
A. Mutu
A. Del Piero
D. Milito
-> Kaká

Now I have to find a way to merge the two mobile average rankings!
(the Champions League one and the national league one)

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milivella
From: milivella on 14 May 2010 04:32
milivella:

> Now I have to find a way to merge the two mobile average rankings!
> (the Champions League one and the national league one)

I went the easy way... Picked the top 30 players from one ranking and
the top 30 from the other, gave 31st position (= 31 points) to anyone
present only in the other ranking, computed the average. Here is the
result:

After 2008-09 (in bracket the position in the FIFA World Player and
Ballon d'Or rankings)
1. Cristiano Ronaldo (2,2)
2. S. Eto'o (9,5)
3. W. Rooney (10,8)
4. L. Messi (1,1)
5. Fernando Torres (7,11)
6. Kaká (4,6)
7. S. Gerrard (8,9)
8. T. Henry (22,15)
9. A. Del Piero
10. D. Kuyt
11. D. Drogba (6,10)
12. Z. Ibrahimovic (14,7)
13. Raúl
14. D. Forlán (-,19)
15. R. van Persie
16. Miroslav Klose
16. A. Mutu
18. D. Milito
19. Lisandro López
20. D. Berbatov
21. E. Adebayor
21. Ryan Babel
21. David Villa (19,26)
24. N. Anelka
25. F. Totti
26. F. Kanouté
27. Deivid
27. S. Agüero
29. Filippo Inzaghi
29. A. Gilardino
31. C. Tévez
31. Peter Crouch
33. G. Higuaín
34. F. Morientes
34. R. van Nistelrooy
34. F. Lampard (11,21)
37. Alexandre Pato
38. J. Llorente
38. Franck Ribery (21,28)
38. Karim Benzema (-,29)
40. D. Bent
40. J. Carew
43. Andrii Shevchenko
43. E. Cavani
43. F. Miccoli
43. Robinho
48. Louis Saha

Not bad, IMHO.

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milivella
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