From: Futbolmetrix on 13 May 2010 15:44 On May 13, 9:36 pm, milivella <milive...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > futbolmetrix: > > > Interesting. Only one player picked. Collectively, we've been shooting > > a massive blank for Brazil. Is this because the roster includes only > > players who earned their first two caps before FS started, or did we > > miss out on players that eventually became ineligible, or is it all > > due to Dunga's idiosyncratic selections? > > The former, I guess. The only selected players who were eligible at > the beginning of the game (and I'm including 2007, AKA the "Jesus vs. > the Vellas" year) are (but I could miss some!) Thiago Silva and > Ramires (other than Bastos and Grafite, of course). > Felipe Melo. He is of course the worst player ever to have worn a Juve shirt, so maybe there was some justification for not picking him. But how about players we picked that missed the cut? Pato, Thiago Neves... D
From: milivella on 13 May 2010 16:05 Futbolmetrix: > Felipe Melo. He is of course the worst player ever to have worn a Juve > shirt, so maybe there was some justification for not picking him. I guess that today it's painfully clear for you! > But how about players we picked that missed the cut? Pato, Thiago > Neves... :D Not sure that they belong in the same breath... A bit serious: according to Castrol http://www.castrolfootball.com/rankings/rankings/?team=&comp=&nation=11&position=&search=&offset=0&jump=1 in the last 12 months the best Brazilian players among the picked ones have been Marcelo (the only really scandalous omission by Dunga!), Pato and Denilson. According to FTBL http://www.ftbl.com/Players/Stats.aspx?playerId=495 (column on the right) the most in form players are Marcelo, Michel Bastos, Fernando, Thiago Motta and Pato (all in the ideal FTBL's 23-man Brazilian squad). (as usual, I could have missed someone!) -- Cheers milivella
From: milivella on 13 May 2010 16:17 milivella: > Most of the squads have already been posted, so I'll just link to the > relevant threads and highlight the players that are interesting from a > Fantasy Scout point of view. > > As usual, data about pickable players are from Wikipedia, so they > should be checked. -England- Squad: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.soccer/browse_thread/thread/a9b3e725aef9d226/94fb5298628024f6#94fb5298628024f6 (thanks, Gabbage!) Pickable: [nobody!] Picked: - Hart (Daniele) - Warnock (William) - Baines (Mpfat) - Dawson (Mpfat) - Walcott (Andrea V.) - Milner (Tom one) - Huddlestone (Giulio) - Johnson (Michael M.) Oldest picked player not called up (AKA winner of the "No More Hopes, Man!" award): - Pennant 1983 (Andrea V.) -- Cheers milivella
From: Futbolmetrix on 14 May 2010 05:03 On May 14, 10:25 am, milivella <milive...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Brazil: > > Players that were pickable at the start of the game (i.e., had their > > third cap after January 1, 2007) and are in Brazil's 23-man roster: 9 > > (Doni, Thiago Silva, Ramires, Felipe Melo, Josue`, Nilmar, Grafite, > > Dani Alves, Michel Bastos) > > Well, it looks like I missed *a lot* of them! :) Though Nilmar > probably had his third cap back in 2003:http://www.footballdatabase.eu/football.club.bresil.2003.403..en.html Hmm.... I guess you're right. It's the 2003 Gold Cup, to which Brazil sent a U-23 team. Wikipedia doesn't count those matches as full internationals, even though it probably should. > And up to December 2007 the eligibility rule was "never had a cap > before January 1 2007", so Doni, Dani Alves and Josue have never been > eligible; of course you couldn't know it, since you joined the game > later. Indeed I didn't know. Silly me for believing that once you've launched a game with a given set of rules, you stick to those rules throughout.... ;-) > > Overlooked players: 4 (Palombo, Pepe, Pazzini, De Sanctis). I was very close to pulling the trigger on Pazzini after his first call-up, but then decided against it. If I had known of the deluge of scouts joining the game after the Gazzetta article, I probably would have picked him. D
From: Insane Ranter on 14 May 2010 05:19
On May 14, 3:25 am, milivella <milive...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Yep, probably many Brazilian players have been picked out of hype! :) You could just pick names out of a hat with Brazil and you'd still have a good team, |