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From: DC on 21 Feb 2010 14:49 REDDEVIL6(a)nospam.net wrote:< <snip> >> Time moves on and we are still around one can not dwell on past >> results. Hudderfield won 3 League titles in a row don't you know ? >> You should pray that Rooney does not get a knock because without him >> you are average, as are Team England for that matter. > > Heard it all before, last season you were saying Ronaldo was our whole > team, it's water off a ducks back Its funny how United have been a one man team since about oh 1993 Cantona Keane Beckham RVN Ronaldo Rooney
From: Joe Horowitz on 21 Feb 2010 14:53 "Baldoni" <BaldoniXXV(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message news:7udfhbFtfU1(a)mid.individual.net... > Eduardo looked decent until that injury and I have a hunch like many > others that Bendtner will never cut it at this level. Van Persie is a > quality striker who knows how to find the net but he has had a terrible > time of it with injuries. It looks like Wenger is hoping to get Chamakh > (spelling?) on a free transfer this summer. Never heard of him. I think that's the problem with Van Persie though, he never seems to get a decent enough run in the team to work his way into everyone's conscience. When we talk about the great strikers in the Premiership it's Torres, Drogba, Rooney, and rightly so, but Van Persie rarely gets mentioned and at his best I think he's as good as any of them. Wonderful touch and a decent finish. Like a hardworking and aggressive version of Berbatov. I've no sympathy for Eduardo. I saw the tackle on YouTube, it wasn't that bad. Bit of jarring of the ankle and some light bruising around the area where the snapped bone ripped through his skin. Thirty years ago he'd have been given a week off to let the swelling go down a bit and then he'd be back out there, fighting for his team, but these days it just goes to show how over-protected this millionaire pussyboys are. Now we're all supposed to feel sorry for him because he spent a year kicking back watching daytime telly and building up his Farmville empire on Facebook and can't remember how to play football anymore, well I'm pretty sure that's his own fault for milking his sick time. What a wuss. -- Joe "I am the fat puddin', but a single puddingness" - Vicky Conlan
From: nigel on 21 Feb 2010 17:39 Joe Horowitz wrote: > "Baldoni" <BaldoniXXV(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message > news:7udfhbFtfU1(a)mid.individual.net... > >>Eduardo looked decent until that injury and I have a hunch like many >>others that Bendtner will never cut it at this level. Van Persie is a >>quality striker who knows how to find the net but he has had a terrible >>time of it with injuries. It looks like Wenger is hoping to get Chamakh >>(spelling?) on a free transfer this summer. > > > Never heard of him. I think that's the problem with Van Persie though, he > never seems to get a decent enough run in the team to work his way into > everyone's conscience. When we talk about the great strikers in the > Premiership it's Torres, Drogba, Rooney, I don't talk about Rooney as a great striker. A great player on his day but he's more of an all-rounder than specialist striker. When England played him up-front as a lone striker he buzzed around a lot and worked hard but wasn't effective in the role. > and rightly so, but Van Persie > rarely gets mentioned and at his best I think he's as good as any of them. > Wonderful touch and a decent finish. Agreed, but he's very selfish. He scores some great goals but wastes a lot of chances too because he refuses to pass when a colleague is better placed to score. > Like a hardworking and aggressive H'mmm, I'd say he blows hot and cold. > version of Berbatov. I think Wenger isn't very good at developing strikers, therefore he needs to bring in someone who's more-or-less the finished article like Henry or Van Persie. There was a glaring example in MOTD - Walcott in a on-on-one situation with the keeper after coming in from the right flank. There were other examples of strikers on MOTD in similar positions - one chipped the ball over the diving keeper, another placed the ball carefully out of the keeper's reach - but Walcott just panicked and blasted the ball fruitlessly straight at the keeper. That's a position he ought to be coached in training so he knows what to do by rote.
From: nigel on 22 Feb 2010 09:11 My pick of the current Prem managers: Goalkeepers: Harry Redknapp. I know he doesn't do it himself but he knows a man who does. Resurrected the careers of James and Gomes. Even got James to worry more about protecting the goal than protecting his face for a short period. Fullbacks: Roy Hodgson. Resurrected Wayne Bridge and Nicky Shorey. Honourable mention to Arsene Wenger. Centrebacks: Tony Pulis or Alex McLeish. Midfielders: Arsene Wenger. Wide players: Roberto Martinez. Strikers: H'mmm, not much to work with here. Zola, for his sterling work with Carlton Cole narrowly shading it over Roy Hodgson for his work with Zamora. If only Mark Hughes were still managing!
From: Joe Horowitz on 22 Feb 2010 09:31
"nigel" <useweb(a)nospam.com> wrote in message news:8cSdnSA2sKT67B_WnZ2dnUVZ7sOdnZ2d(a)brightview.co.uk... > I don't think Rooney scores enough to be considered a principal striker. No, it's not like he's the top scorer in the Premiership or anything. Or the World Cup qualifiers. > When you consider the number of chances Man Utd create, and the number of > goals scored by Ronaldo, who was principally a wide player, their central > strikers should be clearing 30 goals a season easily. Err... principally an attacking player in a wide-ish position, who shoots from anywhere and takes the free kicks and penalties. Nobody scores 30 prem goals easily, for any team. I can only remember a few players ever doing it, for that matter. Kevin Phillips somehow managed it for Sunderland. Ronaldo has done it for Man Utd, by being possibly the 2nd or 3rd best player in the world at the time, and with support from Rooney and Tevez. Henry probably did it at some point for Arsenal. Rooney's on course to do it this season, despite playing in (by your own words) a 'weak' Man Utd team, with no Ronaldo or Tevez. > Liverpool's goal against Unirea immediately sprang to mind. Pacheco's > cushioned header back across goal for Ngog to score is something Van > Persie couldn't/wouldn't do - he'd always try his luck directly on goal. So would Shearer. That's what great strikers do. Doesn't make him a bad person. > A striker should be able to weigh up his own odds of scoring against those > of passing successfully to a colleague then the colleague scoring. Van > Persie aside, Arsenal too often err on the side of passing. A striker should, first and foremost, look to stick the ball in the net. Shoot first, ask questions later. Every great goalscorer in history has been inherently selfish, and often shot fruitlessly when passing was a better option. If you stop to think about it you're not a natural goalscorer. If you get the ball, think "where's the goal? Over there somewhere I guess" and bang, it's flying goalward, then you might have what it takes to clear 30 goals in a Premiership season. > I thought Henry and Van Persie were both regulars in their national teams > when Wenger bought them. I'd certainly heard of them. I'd heard of them too, but you don't pick up 'the finished article' when it comes to goalscorers for 5 million and 2.75 million respectively. > Well, Man Utd and Chelski are both weak this season so I guess they're in > with a chance, but most seasons they would need to be significantly > stronger to present a credible alternative. DWTWP. Man Utd are pretty strong this season. By your own admission they create loads of chances in their games, they've a striker on course for 30 goals, and they only really defended badly for a bit when their entire backline was injured. That they're not quite as strong as last season is true, but they lost two of their best players and haven't yet replaced them so it's to be expected. Chelsea look pretty strong to me. The only team with a truly rotatable squad. -- Joe "I am the fat puddin', but a single puddingness" - Vicky Conlan |