From: michael adams on

"SteveH" <italiancar(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
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> michael adams <mjadams25(a)ontel.net.uk> wrote:
>
> > STOP PRESS: latest news is that Ferguson is hoping to offload
> > Berbatov as a makeweight in order to sign Philip Lahm from
> > Bayern Munich
>
> Credited to the Express. So it has to be true. Even though it's not on
> their website.

The idea that anyone else would want to sign up Berbatov, even at a giveaway
price so as to sweeten a much bigger deal - does take some believing I'd agree.

You'd imagine that such a prospect would be more likely to put people off.


>
> The story that is on the website is that Berbatov is 'fantastic' and
> 'will be with us next year'.
>
> HTH.

What would you expect them to say ?

"We're stuck with Berbatov for another year as nobody else has ever shown
any interest in signing him.

And the club can't give him a free given what we paid for him only 2 years
ago."



michael adams

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> --
> SteveH


From: JAB on
On 18/07/2010 5:19 PM, SteveH wrote:
> He had an injury plagued season last season, but in his first season at
> OT, his stats were significantly better than Tevez's stats. - and I have
> no reason to believe he won't return to this kind of form again.

So yet another who believes that the question was is Berbatov worth more
than Tevez not was Berbatov worth �30mil ...

A simple question was he worth �30mil or not (hint - the answer is no)?
From: SteveH on
michael adams <mjadams25(a)ontel.net.uk> wrote:

> > He had an injury plagued season last season, but in his first season at
> > OT, his stats were significantly better than Tevez's stats.
>
> This is the same Carlos Tevez who Manchester City are reputed to have paid
> �47 million for ?

And we are yet to see how he'll cope with his 2nd and 3rd seasons. On
past evidence, not very well. Especially if the manager doesn't suck him
off after every match.

> Off the top of my head I can't acually remember how much Manchester City
> were offering for Dimitar Berbatov ? Or how much anyone other than
> Ferguson has ever offered for him. Can you ?
>
> Money talks as they say, after all.

Bit of a moot point, as Fergie has said he's not for sale.

> > - and I have
> > no reason to believe he won't return to this kind of form again.
>
> Only if Man U sign up an ageing Robbie Keene maybe.
>
> If you check out both Berbatov and Keane's stats at Spurs - Keene was just
> poodling along until Berbatov showed up - 16 goals a season. In the two
> seasons they were together at Spurs 20006 - 2007 and 2007-2008 they scored
> 22/23 Keane - 23/23 Berbatov. They clearly sparked each other off. Then
> Berbatov wanted out feeling he was too good for Spurs, while Liverpool
> were chasing after Keane based on his revitalised form
>
> So that two of the supposedly most canny managers in the game, Ferguson
> and Rafa played grossly inflated prices for players based on the
> assumption they were brilliant players in their own right.
>
> At least Rafa saw sense quick enough. Having paid 10 million more than Rafa
> presumabaly its taking a bit longer for the penny to drop with Ferguson.

Riiiiiiight.

Have you ever thought that it's more to do with formations and the other
players in the side, rather than 'they only play well together'.

As I said, leave the football talk to those who appreciate the game. You
obviously don't.
--
SteveH
From: SteveH on
JAB <nochance(a)nohope.com> wrote:

> On 18/07/2010 5:19 PM, SteveH wrote:
> > He had an injury plagued season last season, but in his first season at
> > OT, his stats were significantly better than Tevez's stats. - and I have
> > no reason to believe he won't return to this kind of form again.
>
> So yet another who believes that the question was is Berbatov worth more
> than Tevez not was Berbatov worth �30mil ...
>
> A simple question was he worth �30mil or not (hint - the answer is no)?

Is any player worth �30m? (hint - the answer is no)

Players are worth what the selling club are willing to accept and what
the buying club are willing to pay.

It's no more complex than that.

Was Ronaldo worth �80m? - certainly not, but you'd have to be mad not to
accept that. You'd also have to be completely insane to pay it, too.


--
SteveH
From: JAB on
On 18/07/2010 6:00 PM, SteveH wrote:
> JAB<nochance(a)nohope.com> wrote:
>
>> On 18/07/2010 5:19 PM, SteveH wrote:
>>> He had an injury plagued season last season, but in his first season at
>>> OT, his stats were significantly better than Tevez's stats. - and I have
>>> no reason to believe he won't return to this kind of form again.
>>
>> So yet another who believes that the question was is Berbatov worth more
>> than Tevez not was Berbatov worth �30mil ...
>>
>> A simple question was he worth �30mil or not (hint - the answer is no)?
>
> Is any player worth �30m? (hint - the answer is no)
>
> Players are worth what the selling club are willing to accept and what
> the buying club are willing to pay.
>
> It's no more complex than that.
>
> Was Ronaldo worth �80m? - certainly not, but you'd have to be mad not to
> accept that. You'd also have to be completely insane to pay it, too.
>
>

Yer nice dodge Steve ... maybe you could try answering the question next
time?