Clarification sought please - Is this your year ?
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From: JAB on 17 Jul 2010 13:56 On 17/07/2010 6:38 PM, Swerve wrote: > He was worth 30 mil when they bought him, and the season that followed > he did a fair bit better than a lot of people give him credit for. > LOL .. yeh right. Here's something ... take what you think are top ten players in the PL (Berbatov isn't in that obviously) and look at how much each is worth and then sit back and say Berbatov is worth �30mil. Oh and "a far bit better" ... he's worth �30mil according to you so a far bit better is exactly good is it?
From: El Kot on 17 Jul 2010 15:23 JAB wrote: > On 17/07/2010 6:38 PM, Swerve wrote: >> He was worth 30 mil when they bought him, and the season that followed >> he did a fair bit better than a lot of people give him credit for. >> > > LOL .. yeh right. Here's something ... take what you think are top ten > players in the PL (Berbatov isn't in that obviously) and look at how > much each is worth and then sit back and say Berbatov is worth �30mil. You seem to be a bit deluded. In his first season at United, Berbo was the best United player, and number 4 overall, that is, firmly top 10: http://actimindex.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/premover_index_top10025.gif As about the price - that's a different issue, since prices of that magnitude are silly. But in any event, he was worth more than let's say Tevez, and that was reflected in the price that Fergie refused to pay. -- No, no, you can't e-mail me with the nono.
From: Mentalguy2k8 on 17 Jul 2010 16:03 "Swerve" <bill.liles(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:1da74ff7-c55b-42d8-880b-50516e8f07cf(a)q35g2000yqn.googlegroups.com... > On 17 July, 16:18, "Mentalguy2k8" <Mentalguy...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> "Swerve" <bill.li...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> >> news:6fc30dda-b7ce-4aae-8e2a-3872932babe1(a)x21g2000yqa.googlegroups.com... >> On 17 July, 15:35, "Mentalguy2k8" <Mentalguy...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> > "Swerve" <bill.li...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> >> >news:1395418a-3e14-48a9-a5a9-ff5f59732147(a)e5g2000yqn.googlegroups.com... >> >> > > On 17 July, 13:22, "Mentalguy2k8" <Mentalguy...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> "Swerve" <bill.li...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> >> > >>news:2a4d4c0b-dcaf-47de-9223-b55b84a5b601(a)w12g2000yqj.googlegroups.com... >> >> > >> > On 17 July, 08:56, "Redman" <redman1...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >> > >> >> "bofh" <lan...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> >> > >> >>news:6f1bf5f5-9fa2-41f7-843a-9095d728ea90(a)w30g2000yqw.googlegroups.com... >> >> > >> >> > On 16 July, 06:15, "The Magician" <su...(a)wigan.com> wrote: >> > >> >> >> Not heard much from Liverpool fans who normally in July have >> > >> >> >> all >> > >> >> >> but >> > >> >> >> hoisted >> > >> >> >> the title flag and built a stand in their trophy cabinet for >> > >> >> >> the >> > >> >> >> "obvious" >> > >> >> >> League Title which is "certain" to head to Anfield. >> >> > >> >> >> Can you please assist anxious Manchester United supporters, by >> > >> >> >> clarifying >> > >> >> >> if >> > >> >> >> this is your season or not please, we are getting very worried >> > >> >> >> that >> > >> >> >> you >> > >> >> >> may >> > >> >> >> be finally getting the message, and seek that you alleviate >> > >> >> >> such >> > >> >> >> fears >> > >> >> >> from >> > >> >> >> us minds >> >> > >> >> > thanks. Dont worry about us. We have made changes to the club >> > >> >> > that >> > >> >> > rule us out of worrying about trophies and things, so pop over >> > >> >> > to >> > >> >> > the >> > >> >> > spurs, city or villa groups if you want banter for the next few >> > >> >> > seasons >> >> > >> >> > Hope that helps >> >> > >> >> Let's turn this around and ask is this Berbaflops year for the >> > >> >> scum? >> > >> >> Well >> > >> >> he >> > >> >> scored and got MOTM against Celtic >> >> > >> >> snigger >> >> > >> >> Redman- Hide quoted text - >> >> > >> >> - Show quoted text - >> >> > >> > You mean Dimitar Berbatov? >> >> > >> > Scorer of 48 international goals in 77 matches? >> >> > >> > 6 times Bulgarian player of the year? >> >> > >> So you're saying Rooney is your second choice striker?- Hide quoted >> > >> text - >> >> > >> - Show quoted text - >> >> > > No. Why would you think that? >> >> > You're making a case for Berbatov based on international goals and >> > player >> > of >> > the year awards, he's got more of both than Rooney. So he must be a >> > better >> > player, eh? Or do we judge Rooney on his United stats?- Hide quoted >> > text - >> >> > - Show quoted text - >> >I'm merely illustrating my point that Berbatov was and still is a >> >truly world class player who has just had by his own high standards an >> >ordinary season. >> >> Yes, he's a decent player by Bulgarian standards, thanks.- Hide quoted >> text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > He's more than a decent player by Liverpool standards, thanks. > > The only English striker to match his international goal scoring in > terms of return AND rate is Jimmy Greaves, so by that measure he is > more than just a decent player by "Bulgarian" standards, he is also > more than just a decent player by international standards too. Greaves was scoring for fun domestically, and he didn't score the majority of his International goals in friendlies against the likes of Latvia, Cyprus, Malta and Luxembourg. Bulgaria have only appeared (briefly) in 1 European Championship and no World Cups during Berbatov's career, so it's impossible to compare his International scoring record to anyone else who plays for a successful nation. It's like saying that a non-league player must be as good as Rooney because he's scored the same amount of goals in a season.
From: michael adams on 18 Jul 2010 05:21 "Swerve" <bill.liles(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:b734f01c-3654-481c-8b33-74f731734356(a)j8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com... > More is expected, but a flop he is not. That's just silly tabloid > talk. Regardless of how highly Ferguson rated him, even before buying him the fact remains that there's never been any "silly tabloid talk" about anyone else wanting to sign him, has there ? Ever. Even Man City haven't shown any interest in him. Yet they're all queuing up to pay 50 mill for a "crock" like Torres who's almost guaranteed to be out for half the season, but where Berbatov is concerned nobody wants to know. Doesn't that tell you something ? Its not exactly as if Fergie is having to fight to hold onto him is it ? STOP PRESS: latest news is that Ferguson is hoping to offload Berbatov as a makeweight in order to sign Philip Lahm from Bayern Munich michael adams ....
From: SteveH on 18 Jul 2010 10:16
michael adams <mjadams25(a)ontel.net.uk> wrote: > STOP PRESS: latest news is that Ferguson is hoping to offload > Berbatov as a makeweight in order to sign Philip Lahm from > Bayern Munich Credited to the Express. So it has to be true. Even though it's not on their website. The story that is on the website is that Berbatov is 'fantastic' and 'will be with us next year'. HTH. -- SteveH |