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From: chuck-spears on 26 Apr 2010 16:29 "Udo Binsack" <udo_binsack(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:6c5b20ca-fe77-4726-a100-06be0652c16c(a)h11g2000vbo.googlegroups.com... On 26 Apr, 20:10, "chuck-spears" <chuck-spe...(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote: > "Mentalguy2k8" <Mentalguy...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:C0iBn.1926$lQ.885(a)newsfe03.ams2... > > > > > > > "chuck-spears" <chuck-spe...(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message > >news:nRhBn.116603$hx2.22816(a)newsfe08.ams2... > > >> "Mentalguy2k8" <Mentalguy...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > >>news:QVgBn.33921$7R.2809(a)newsfe19.ams2... > > >>> "chuck-spears" <chuck-spe...(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message > >>>news:PKfBn.30700$bn4.21014(a)newsfe20.ams2... > > >>>> "Mentalguy2k8" <Mentalguy...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > >>>>news:Vo0Bn.791484$DL1.33077(a)newsfe25.ams2... > > >>>>> <REDDEV...(a)nospam.net> wrote in message > >>>>>news:a509t5h4ncfg3355mrpr28vagav4jm0gti(a)4ax.com... > >>>>>> On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 18:41:50 +0100, "Lawrence Jenkins" > >>>>>> <lawrenc...(a)sky.com> wrote: > > >>>>>>><REDDEV...(a)nospam.net> wrote in message > >>>>>>>news:qdu8t55oiipkeqtuj2a8djgnl309d51mgp(a)4ax.com... > >>>>>>>> On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 18:08:52 +0100, "Red Rackham" > >>>>>>>> <ONei...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>Well, I don't think we're going to do them on goal difference. > > >>>>>>>>>Unless Liverpool put 8 past them. > > >>>>>>>>>Not PMSL > > >>>>>>>> Liverpool will bend over > > >>>>>>>Liverpool have to win and we win against Sunderland that would put > >>>>>>>us > >>>>>>>two > >>>>>>>points ahead win our last game against Stoke and that's it. > > >>>>>>>If Chelsea draw at Anfield and we beat Sunderland we should be i > >>>>>>>point ahead > >>>>>>>and only needing to beat Stoke. If we both win then its down to the > >>>>>>>last > >>>>>>>games of the season at 4pm at our respective home grounds. Its > >>>>>>>still > >>>>>>>possible chelsea have to beat Liverpool otherwise we have the > >>>>>>>greatest > >>>>>>>chance. Of course I'm asuming we beat Sunderland away and Stoke at > >>>>>>>home. > > >>>>>>>Lets face it when Chelsea made us look silly a couple of weeks back > >>>>>>>we > >>>>>>>thought it was all over then. > > >>>>>>>Will Liverpool roll over and die? We'll see but there's not a lot > >>>>>>>of > >>>>>>>love > >>>>>>>between the two clubs. > > >>>>>> Chelsea made us look silly? > > >>>>>> You mean a linesman made himself look corrupt? > > >>>>> Except that he didn't. > > >>>> Except that he did or maybe you can explain why he didn't give the > >>>> totally obvious offside that he had a clear view of. > > >>> We've covered this already. It's accepted by the vast majority that it > >>> wasn't corruption. End of. > > >> The conclusion was that no one could explain his decision not to give > >> offside. > > > No, the conclusion was that everyone with a rational thought process > > agreed that he made a mistake. > > > There, explained. > > How could he have made the 'mistake', it was impossible under the > circumstances, what do you think could have cause 'a mistake'? FFS, how many times do we have to explain this to you? I honestly hope this is simply the result of some childish tantrum you still haven't got over and that you don't actually believe this ridiculous idea you've concocted in your mind. "how many times do we have to explain this to you" Well go ahead and explain how he made the 'error', just repeating 'human error' isn't an explanation. Run us through how you came to your conclusion.
From: Mentalguy2k8 on 26 Apr 2010 16:51 "chuck-spears" <chuck-spears(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message news:NHmBn.35496$7R.31309(a)newsfe19.ams2... > > "Udo Binsack" <udo_binsack(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:6c5b20ca-fe77-4726-a100-06be0652c16c(a)h11g2000vbo.googlegroups.com... > On 26 Apr, 20:10, "chuck-spears" <chuck-spe...(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote: >> "Mentalguy2k8" <Mentalguy...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> >> news:C0iBn.1926$lQ.885(a)newsfe03.ams2... >> >> >> >> >> >> > "chuck-spears" <chuck-spe...(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message >> >news:nRhBn.116603$hx2.22816(a)newsfe08.ams2... >> >> >> "Mentalguy2k8" <Mentalguy...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> >>news:QVgBn.33921$7R.2809(a)newsfe19.ams2... >> >> >>> "chuck-spears" <chuck-spe...(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message >> >>>news:PKfBn.30700$bn4.21014(a)newsfe20.ams2... >> >> >>>> "Mentalguy2k8" <Mentalguy...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> >>>>news:Vo0Bn.791484$DL1.33077(a)newsfe25.ams2... >> >> >>>>> <REDDEV...(a)nospam.net> wrote in message >> >>>>>news:a509t5h4ncfg3355mrpr28vagav4jm0gti(a)4ax.com... >> >>>>>> On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 18:41:50 +0100, "Lawrence Jenkins" >> >>>>>> <lawrenc...(a)sky.com> wrote: >> >> >>>>>>><REDDEV...(a)nospam.net> wrote in message >> >>>>>>>news:qdu8t55oiipkeqtuj2a8djgnl309d51mgp(a)4ax.com... >> >>>>>>>> On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 18:08:52 +0100, "Red Rackham" >> >>>>>>>> <ONei...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> >>>>>>>>>Well, I don't think we're going to do them on goal difference. >> >> >>>>>>>>>Unless Liverpool put 8 past them. >> >> >>>>>>>>>Not PMSL >> >> >>>>>>>> Liverpool will bend over >> >> >>>>>>>Liverpool have to win and we win against Sunderland that would put >> >>>>>>>us >> >>>>>>>two >> >>>>>>>points ahead win our last game against Stoke and that's it. >> >> >>>>>>>If Chelsea draw at Anfield and we beat Sunderland we should be i >> >>>>>>>point ahead >> >>>>>>>and only needing to beat Stoke. If we both win then its down to >> >>>>>>>the >> >>>>>>>last >> >>>>>>>games of the season at 4pm at our respective home grounds. Its >> >>>>>>>still >> >>>>>>>possible chelsea have to beat Liverpool otherwise we have the >> >>>>>>>greatest >> >>>>>>>chance. Of course I'm asuming we beat Sunderland away and Stoke at >> >>>>>>>home. >> >> >>>>>>>Lets face it when Chelsea made us look silly a couple of weeks >> >>>>>>>back >> >>>>>>>we >> >>>>>>>thought it was all over then. >> >> >>>>>>>Will Liverpool roll over and die? We'll see but there's not a lot >> >>>>>>>of >> >>>>>>>love >> >>>>>>>between the two clubs. >> >> >>>>>> Chelsea made us look silly? >> >> >>>>>> You mean a linesman made himself look corrupt? >> >> >>>>> Except that he didn't. >> >> >>>> Except that he did or maybe you can explain why he didn't give the >> >>>> totally obvious offside that he had a clear view of. >> >> >>> We've covered this already. It's accepted by the vast majority that >> >>> it >> >>> wasn't corruption. End of. >> >> >> The conclusion was that no one could explain his decision not to give >> >> offside. >> >> > No, the conclusion was that everyone with a rational thought process >> > agreed that he made a mistake. >> >> > There, explained. >> >> How could he have made the 'mistake', it was impossible under the >> circumstances, what do you think could have cause 'a mistake'? > > FFS, how many times do we have to explain this to you? > > I honestly hope this is simply the result of some childish tantrum you > still haven't got over and that you don't actually believe this > ridiculous idea you've concocted in your mind. > > "how many times do we have to explain this to you" > Well go ahead and explain how he made the 'error', just repeating 'human > error' isn't an explanation. Run us through how you came to your > conclusion. But to keep saying "conspiracy" is also not an explanation without any supporting evidence. Post some facts.
From: Udo Binsack on 26 Apr 2010 17:45 On 26 Apr, 21:29, "chuck-spears" <chuck-spe...(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote: > "Udo Binsack" <udo_bins...(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:6c5b20ca-fe77-4726-a100-06be0652c16c(a)h11g2000vbo.googlegroups.com... > On 26 Apr, 20:10, "chuck-spears" <chuck-spe...(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote: > > > > > "Mentalguy2k8" <Mentalguy...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > >news:C0iBn.1926$lQ.885(a)newsfe03.ams2... > > > > "chuck-spears" <chuck-spe...(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message > > >news:nRhBn.116603$hx2.22816(a)newsfe08.ams2... > > > >> "Mentalguy2k8" <Mentalguy...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > >>news:QVgBn.33921$7R.2809(a)newsfe19.ams2... > > > >>> "chuck-spears" <chuck-spe...(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message > > >>>news:PKfBn.30700$bn4.21014(a)newsfe20.ams2... > > > >>>> "Mentalguy2k8" <Mentalguy...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > >>>>news:Vo0Bn.791484$DL1.33077(a)newsfe25.ams2... > > > >>>>> <REDDEV...(a)nospam.net> wrote in message > > >>>>>news:a509t5h4ncfg3355mrpr28vagav4jm0gti(a)4ax.com... > > >>>>>> On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 18:41:50 +0100, "Lawrence Jenkins" > > >>>>>> <lawrenc...(a)sky.com> wrote: > > > >>>>>>><REDDEV...(a)nospam.net> wrote in message > > >>>>>>>news:qdu8t55oiipkeqtuj2a8djgnl309d51mgp(a)4ax.com... > > >>>>>>>> On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 18:08:52 +0100, "Red Rackham" > > >>>>>>>> <ONei...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>Well, I don't think we're going to do them on goal difference. > > > >>>>>>>>>Unless Liverpool put 8 past them. > > > >>>>>>>>>Not PMSL > > > >>>>>>>> Liverpool will bend over > > > >>>>>>>Liverpool have to win and we win against Sunderland that would put > > >>>>>>>us > > >>>>>>>two > > >>>>>>>points ahead win our last game against Stoke and that's it. > > > >>>>>>>If Chelsea draw at Anfield and we beat Sunderland we should be i > > >>>>>>>point ahead > > >>>>>>>and only needing to beat Stoke. If we both win then its down to the > > >>>>>>>last > > >>>>>>>games of the season at 4pm at our respective home grounds. Its > > >>>>>>>still > > >>>>>>>possible chelsea have to beat Liverpool otherwise we have the > > >>>>>>>greatest > > >>>>>>>chance. Of course I'm asuming we beat Sunderland away and Stoke at > > >>>>>>>home. > > > >>>>>>>Lets face it when Chelsea made us look silly a couple of weeks back > > >>>>>>>we > > >>>>>>>thought it was all over then. > > > >>>>>>>Will Liverpool roll over and die? We'll see but there's not a lot > > >>>>>>>of > > >>>>>>>love > > >>>>>>>between the two clubs. > > > >>>>>> Chelsea made us look silly? > > > >>>>>> You mean a linesman made himself look corrupt? > > > >>>>> Except that he didn't. > > > >>>> Except that he did or maybe you can explain why he didn't give the > > >>>> totally obvious offside that he had a clear view of. > > > >>> We've covered this already. It's accepted by the vast majority that it > > >>> wasn't corruption. End of. > > > >> The conclusion was that no one could explain his decision not to give > > >> offside. > > > > No, the conclusion was that everyone with a rational thought process > > > agreed that he made a mistake. > > > > There, explained. > > > How could he have made the 'mistake', it was impossible under the > > circumstances, what do you think could have cause 'a mistake'? > > FFS, how many times do we have to explain this to you? > > I honestly hope this is simply the result of some childish tantrum you > still haven't got over and that you don't actually believe this > ridiculous idea you've concocted in your mind. > > "how many times do we have to explain this to you" > Well go ahead and explain how he made the 'error', just repeating 'human > error' isn't an explanation. Run us through how you came to your conclusion. Twice now I've given you a list of plausible explanations - i don't intend doing it a third time. Meanwhile you have still failed to offer any explanation (a) how you know for certain the linesman saw the offside and didn't simply miss it and (b) why you think he would have deliberately failed to flag Dogba offside, given that, had the officials really wanted Chelsea to win so badly, rather than resorting to corruption as you claim, they could have done so legitimately by giving the Anelka penalty, or disallowing the Macheda handball goal, or giving Scholes the 2 yellow cards he easily deserved. If you can't answer these very basic questions, you can't be surprised when people treat your theory as the nonsense it is.
From: chuck-spears on 26 Apr 2010 18:20 "Udo Binsack" <udo_binsack(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:4dea1045-cc04-43f8-bfb0-318169d135b5(a)y30g2000yqh.googlegroups.com... On 26 Apr, 21:29, "chuck-spears" <chuck-spe...(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote: > "Udo Binsack" <udo_bins...(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:6c5b20ca-fe77-4726-a100-06be0652c16c(a)h11g2000vbo.googlegroups.com... > On 26 Apr, 20:10, "chuck-spears" <chuck-spe...(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote: > > > > > "Mentalguy2k8" <Mentalguy...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > >news:C0iBn.1926$lQ.885(a)newsfe03.ams2... > > > > "chuck-spears" <chuck-spe...(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message > > >news:nRhBn.116603$hx2.22816(a)newsfe08.ams2... > > > >> "Mentalguy2k8" <Mentalguy...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > >>news:QVgBn.33921$7R.2809(a)newsfe19.ams2... > > > >>> "chuck-spears" <chuck-spe...(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message > > >>>news:PKfBn.30700$bn4.21014(a)newsfe20.ams2... > > > >>>> "Mentalguy2k8" <Mentalguy...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > >>>>news:Vo0Bn.791484$DL1.33077(a)newsfe25.ams2... > > > >>>>> <REDDEV...(a)nospam.net> wrote in message > > >>>>>news:a509t5h4ncfg3355mrpr28vagav4jm0gti(a)4ax.com... > > >>>>>> On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 18:41:50 +0100, "Lawrence Jenkins" > > >>>>>> <lawrenc...(a)sky.com> wrote: > > > >>>>>>><REDDEV...(a)nospam.net> wrote in message > > >>>>>>>news:qdu8t55oiipkeqtuj2a8djgnl309d51mgp(a)4ax.com... > > >>>>>>>> On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 18:08:52 +0100, "Red Rackham" > > >>>>>>>> <ONei...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>Well, I don't think we're going to do them on goal difference. > > > >>>>>>>>>Unless Liverpool put 8 past them. > > > >>>>>>>>>Not PMSL > > > >>>>>>>> Liverpool will bend over > > > >>>>>>>Liverpool have to win and we win against Sunderland that would > > >>>>>>>put > > >>>>>>>us > > >>>>>>>two > > >>>>>>>points ahead win our last game against Stoke and that's it. > > > >>>>>>>If Chelsea draw at Anfield and we beat Sunderland we should be i > > >>>>>>>point ahead > > >>>>>>>and only needing to beat Stoke. If we both win then its down to > > >>>>>>>the > > >>>>>>>last > > >>>>>>>games of the season at 4pm at our respective home grounds. Its > > >>>>>>>still > > >>>>>>>possible chelsea have to beat Liverpool otherwise we have the > > >>>>>>>greatest > > >>>>>>>chance. Of course I'm asuming we beat Sunderland away and Stoke > > >>>>>>>at > > >>>>>>>home. > > > >>>>>>>Lets face it when Chelsea made us look silly a couple of weeks > > >>>>>>>back > > >>>>>>>we > > >>>>>>>thought it was all over then. > > > >>>>>>>Will Liverpool roll over and die? We'll see but there's not a lot > > >>>>>>>of > > >>>>>>>love > > >>>>>>>between the two clubs. > > > >>>>>> Chelsea made us look silly? > > > >>>>>> You mean a linesman made himself look corrupt? > > > >>>>> Except that he didn't. > > > >>>> Except that he did or maybe you can explain why he didn't give the > > >>>> totally obvious offside that he had a clear view of. > > > >>> We've covered this already. It's accepted by the vast majority that > > >>> it > > >>> wasn't corruption. End of. > > > >> The conclusion was that no one could explain his decision not to give > > >> offside. > > > > No, the conclusion was that everyone with a rational thought process > > > agreed that he made a mistake. > > > > There, explained. > > > How could he have made the 'mistake', it was impossible under the > > circumstances, what do you think could have cause 'a mistake'? > > FFS, how many times do we have to explain this to you? > > I honestly hope this is simply the result of some childish tantrum you > still haven't got over and that you don't actually believe this > ridiculous idea you've concocted in your mind. > > "how many times do we have to explain this to you" > Well go ahead and explain how he made the 'error', just repeating 'human > error' isn't an explanation. Run us through how you came to your > conclusion. Twice now I've given you a list of plausible explanations - i don't intend doing it a third time. You have never given any explanation as to how you think the linesman could have made a mistake and I don't expect one from you. You tend to avoid answering direct questions. I don't have a theory, there are a few possiblities and a simple error, after watching the evidence, doesn't look the most likely. I merely stated that under the circumstances no one could explain why the linesman didn't give offside.
From: Mentalguy2k8 on 26 Apr 2010 18:42
"chuck-spears" <chuck-spears(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message news:4woBn.18342$zV.3853(a)newsfe27.ams2... > > "Udo Binsack" <udo_binsack(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:4dea1045-cc04-43f8-bfb0-318169d135b5(a)y30g2000yqh.googlegroups.com... > On 26 Apr, 21:29, "chuck-spears" <chuck-spe...(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote: >> "Udo Binsack" <udo_bins...(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >> >> news:6c5b20ca-fe77-4726-a100-06be0652c16c(a)h11g2000vbo.googlegroups.com... >> On 26 Apr, 20:10, "chuck-spears" <chuck-spe...(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote: >> >> >> >> > "Mentalguy2k8" <Mentalguy...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> >> >news:C0iBn.1926$lQ.885(a)newsfe03.ams2... >> >> > > "chuck-spears" <chuck-spe...(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message >> > >news:nRhBn.116603$hx2.22816(a)newsfe08.ams2... >> >> > >> "Mentalguy2k8" <Mentalguy...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> > >>news:QVgBn.33921$7R.2809(a)newsfe19.ams2... >> >> > >>> "chuck-spears" <chuck-spe...(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message >> > >>>news:PKfBn.30700$bn4.21014(a)newsfe20.ams2... >> >> > >>>> "Mentalguy2k8" <Mentalguy...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> > >>>>news:Vo0Bn.791484$DL1.33077(a)newsfe25.ams2... >> >> > >>>>> <REDDEV...(a)nospam.net> wrote in message >> > >>>>>news:a509t5h4ncfg3355mrpr28vagav4jm0gti(a)4ax.com... >> > >>>>>> On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 18:41:50 +0100, "Lawrence Jenkins" >> > >>>>>> <lawrenc...(a)sky.com> wrote: >> >> > >>>>>>><REDDEV...(a)nospam.net> wrote in message >> > >>>>>>>news:qdu8t55oiipkeqtuj2a8djgnl309d51mgp(a)4ax.com... >> > >>>>>>>> On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 18:08:52 +0100, "Red Rackham" >> > >>>>>>>> <ONei...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> > >>>>>>>>>Well, I don't think we're going to do them on goal difference. >> >> > >>>>>>>>>Unless Liverpool put 8 past them. >> >> > >>>>>>>>>Not PMSL >> >> > >>>>>>>> Liverpool will bend over >> >> > >>>>>>>Liverpool have to win and we win against Sunderland that would >> > >>>>>>>put >> > >>>>>>>us >> > >>>>>>>two >> > >>>>>>>points ahead win our last game against Stoke and that's it. >> >> > >>>>>>>If Chelsea draw at Anfield and we beat Sunderland we should be i >> > >>>>>>>point ahead >> > >>>>>>>and only needing to beat Stoke. If we both win then its down to >> > >>>>>>>the >> > >>>>>>>last >> > >>>>>>>games of the season at 4pm at our respective home grounds. Its >> > >>>>>>>still >> > >>>>>>>possible chelsea have to beat Liverpool otherwise we have the >> > >>>>>>>greatest >> > >>>>>>>chance. Of course I'm asuming we beat Sunderland away and Stoke >> > >>>>>>>at >> > >>>>>>>home. >> >> > >>>>>>>Lets face it when Chelsea made us look silly a couple of weeks >> > >>>>>>>back >> > >>>>>>>we >> > >>>>>>>thought it was all over then. >> >> > >>>>>>>Will Liverpool roll over and die? We'll see but there's not a >> > >>>>>>>lot >> > >>>>>>>of >> > >>>>>>>love >> > >>>>>>>between the two clubs. >> >> > >>>>>> Chelsea made us look silly? >> >> > >>>>>> You mean a linesman made himself look corrupt? >> >> > >>>>> Except that he didn't. >> >> > >>>> Except that he did or maybe you can explain why he didn't give the >> > >>>> totally obvious offside that he had a clear view of. >> >> > >>> We've covered this already. It's accepted by the vast majority that >> > >>> it >> > >>> wasn't corruption. End of. >> >> > >> The conclusion was that no one could explain his decision not to >> > >> give >> > >> offside. >> >> > > No, the conclusion was that everyone with a rational thought process >> > > agreed that he made a mistake. >> >> > > There, explained. >> >> > How could he have made the 'mistake', it was impossible under the >> > circumstances, what do you think could have cause 'a mistake'? >> >> FFS, how many times do we have to explain this to you? >> >> I honestly hope this is simply the result of some childish tantrum you >> still haven't got over and that you don't actually believe this >> ridiculous idea you've concocted in your mind. >> >> "how many times do we have to explain this to you" >> Well go ahead and explain how he made the 'error', just repeating 'human >> error' isn't an explanation. Run us through how you came to your >> conclusion. > > Twice now I've given you a list of plausible explanations - i don't > intend doing it a third time. > > You have never given any explanation as to how you think the linesman > could have made a mistake and I don't expect one from you. You tend to > avoid answering direct questions. > I don't have a theory, there are a few possiblities and a simple error, > after watching the evidence, doesn't look the most likely. I merely stated > that under the circumstances no one could explain why the linesman didn't > give offside. After watching *what* evidence? Player was offside, he didn't give it. What evidence specifically shows it wasn't an error? |