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From: Baldoni on 22 Apr 2010 03:47 Diablos Rojos explained : >> >> Just pissing about DR ... :-) >> > > I know but occassionally I feel forced to interject when it gets a bit silly > Jab is explaining himself to Rogers in the hope that Rogers will still let him play on here ! lol -- Count Baldoni In hoc signo vinces
From: Pope Pompous XVIII on 23 Apr 2010 13:31 On 2010-04-23, JAB <nochance(a)nohope.com> wrote: > On 23/04/2010 9:19 AM, Diablos Rojos wrote: >> "JAB"<nochance(a)nohope.com> wrote in message >> news:AAcAn.35629$xE4.32757(a)newsfe29.ams2... >>> On 23/04/2010 9:03 AM, Diablos Rojos wrote: >>>>> It's a shame the Liverpool model wasn't followed where the club did have >>>>> the debt put on to it! >>>>> >>>> >>>> You've confused me there, was that sarcasm? >>>> >>> >>> It may have been ... I just remember all the gloating about how the >>> Liverpool take over was going to be different from the Man U one and they >>> weren't going to be saddled with debt etc. not quite how it turned out if >>> I remember! On a more serious note the situation at Liverpool does >>> indicate why the PL needs to think hard about who can buy clubs and how >>> they are run. It could still go horrible wrong for Liverpool ... >>> >> >> What a shame that would be. >> >> Well the current owners have put the club up for sale... I'm thinking the >> �800 million asking price is a bit o the steep side though. >> >> > > ... and that's the point I was making about some of the evaluations we > see of clubs. �800 million for a club that needs a new ground and some > serious investment in the team to enable it to compete for the title. > Not exactly the sort of price I would of had in mind ... Have you ever considered taking classes in grammar and writing, JAB? It would put you in a much stronger position to mock the intelligence of someone else. Just a thought. -- "It is incorrect to say that biological data cannot be decisive.... It is scientifically correct to say that an individual human life begins at conception.... Our laws, one function of which is to help preserve the lives of our people, should be based on accurate scientific data" - Professor Micheline Matthews-Roth, Associate Professor of Medicine, Harvard University Medical School, giving evidence to US Senate Judiciary Committee, 1981, set up to determine when human life begins.
From: JAB on 23 Apr 2010 13:39 On 23/04/2010 6:31 PM, Pope Pompous XVIII wrote: > On 2010-04-23, JAB<nochance(a)nohope.com> wrote: >> On 23/04/2010 9:19 AM, Diablos Rojos wrote: >>> "JAB"<nochance(a)nohope.com> wrote in message >>> news:AAcAn.35629$xE4.32757(a)newsfe29.ams2... >>>> On 23/04/2010 9:03 AM, Diablos Rojos wrote: >>>>>> It's a shame the Liverpool model wasn't followed where the club did have >>>>>> the debt put on to it! >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> You've confused me there, was that sarcasm? >>>>> >>>> >>>> It may have been ... I just remember all the gloating about how the >>>> Liverpool take over was going to be different from the Man U one and they >>>> weren't going to be saddled with debt etc. not quite how it turned out if >>>> I remember! On a more serious note the situation at Liverpool does >>>> indicate why the PL needs to think hard about who can buy clubs and how >>>> they are run. It could still go horrible wrong for Liverpool ... >>>> >>> >>> What a shame that would be. >>> >>> Well the current owners have put the club up for sale... I'm thinking the >>> �800 million asking price is a bit o the steep side though. >>> >>> >> >> ... and that's the point I was making about some of the evaluations we >> see of clubs. �800 million for a club that needs a new ground and some >> serious investment in the team to enable it to compete for the title. >> Not exactly the sort of price I would of had in mind ... > > Have you ever considered taking classes in grammar and writing, JAB? > > It would put you in a much stronger position to mock the intelligence of > someone else. > > Just a thought. What's that pope? For a moment there I thought you were going to answer the question as to why your all powerful god designed a mechanism that produced so many abortions. You do seem to have a habit of just avoiding questions you can't answer, don't you pope? Mocking your intelligence is oh so easy. Possibly only balders would find it difficult to do ... p.s. When did you decide to be a pretend Irishman. Seems a bit weird for someone who's English don't you think? I look forward to your normal hand waving ...
From: Diablos Rojos on 23 Apr 2010 03:28 "JAB" <nochance(a)nohope.com> wrote in message news:RV0An.30542$TL1.6656(a)newsfe06.ams2... > On 22/04/2010 8:33 AM, Diablos Rojos wrote: > >> The debt only becomes a worry when it is above the value of the club, but >> yet again that stock has risen. Forbes only yesterday announcing that >> MUFC >> is the most valuable sports club on the planet with a worth in excess of >> $1.8billion dollars, so it looks like the Red Knights might need to >> cough >> up at least �1.2billion to get their hands on the club. >> > > Well I think the dotcom boom showed that isn't overly true! Come on.... ridiculous to compare the two. > The more important aspect is do Man U have the cash flow to pay off the > debt while at the same time keep the club running ... to which the answer > is yes at the moment. The worst case scenario is having to sell players to > balance the books leading to a downward spiral in popularity and therefore > income to service such a large debt. Will it happen ... probably not. Exactly >I expect Man U to be sold in the next five years or so and the Glazers to >go away with a large smile on their faces. > I've been saying from the beginning of their takeover when the scare mongering was in full flow about them stripping the club, selling assets etc that they weren't interested in that and the way they were going to make money was to keep the club successful and hold onto it for a number of years and sell on at a ridiculous price. They could do that now and walk away with a �500,000,000.00 profit.... not bad going eh? the fuckers!
From: JAB on 23 Apr 2010 03:51
On 23/04/2010 8:28 AM, Diablos Rojos wrote: > "JAB"<nochance(a)nohope.com> wrote in message > news:RV0An.30542$TL1.6656(a)newsfe06.ams2... >> On 22/04/2010 8:33 AM, Diablos Rojos wrote: >> >>> The debt only becomes a worry when it is above the value of the club, but >>> yet again that stock has risen. Forbes only yesterday announcing that >>> MUFC >>> is the most valuable sports club on the planet with a worth in excess of >>> $1.8billion dollars, so it looks like the Red Knights might need to >>> cough >>> up at least �1.2billion to get their hands on the club. >>> >> >> Well I think the dotcom boom showed that isn't overly true! > > > Come on.... ridiculous to compare the two. > Why is it ridiculous? EPL clubs aren't exactly know for being money making machines so why such high evaluations. Maybe the expectation that if they back the right club it will be the one that gets the jackpot of individual TV rights etc.? Who knows if football and in particular English football will be as popular as it currently is. Would you have predicted what's happened to the Italian league. > >> The more important aspect is do Man U have the cash flow to pay off the >> debt while at the same time keep the club running ... to which the answer >> is yes at the moment. The worst case scenario is having to sell players to >> balance the books leading to a downward spiral in popularity and therefore >> income to service such a large debt. Will it happen ... probably not. > > Exactly > > > >> I expect Man U to be sold in the next five years or so and the Glazers to >> go away with a large smile on their faces. >> > > I've been saying from the beginning of their takeover when the scare > mongering was in full flow about them stripping the club, selling assets etc > that they weren't interested in that and the way they were going to make > money was to keep the club successful and hold onto it for a number of years > and sell on at a ridiculous price. They could do that now and walk away > with a �500,000,000.00 profit.... not bad going eh? the fuckers! > They may not be selling assets as such but they are certainly taking money out in a somewhat dubious manner. It's a shame the Liverpool model wasn't followed where the club did have the debt put on to it! |