From: Lescor on


"Diablos Rojos" <diablos_r0j0s(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "DC" <a(a)a.com> wrote in message news:op.u9ejsoxcwgp685(a)gateway-pc.lan...
>> On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:40:11 -0000, Lescor <lescor(a)btinternet.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Google Beta User" <wanyikuli(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:473358bb-bc32-4411-b3e8-e40af064bda5(a)q23g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
>>>> On Mar 10, 2:26 pm, italian...(a)gmail.com (SteveH) wrote:
>>>> :
>>>>> > An emotional attachment to a game where you claim to follow nobody,
>>>>> > you're
>>>>> > right I find it quite strange but to be perfectly frank I think
>>>>> you're
>>>>> > alleged impartiallity is absolute bollocks.
>>>>>
>>>>> I was under the impression he was a johnny come lately Chelski fan.
>>>>
>>>> Correct.
>>>>
>>>> He knows football history, and is "cultured" (whtatever that means)
>>>> but I've suspected since he burst onto the scene that he's an
>>>> undercover Chelski fan.
>>>
>>>
>>> Cultured? What the hell is that supposed to mean? I know football
>>> because I have been watching it for (probably) far longer than any other
>>> around here, and did so mainly as a hard up working class lad standing
>>> in the rain and freezing.
>>>
>>> Why understanding an interest which is not based on club bias is so
>>> difficult to understand is beyond me.
>>>
>>> Try this for a concept. A lover of classical music.......but not only
>>> Bach.
>>>
>>> Of good food.......but not only prime steak
>>> Of Jazz.................. but not only Mulligan
>>> Of ice cream.......but not only vanilla
>>> Of art.............,,,, but not only Turner
>>> Of opera......but not only Puccini
>>> Of Drama......but not only Shakespeare
>>> Of sport........but not only football.
>>> Of gambling.....but not only poker....etc.
>>>
>>> Not difficult to understand is it? So why such a problem with adding
>>> football
>>> to the list?
>>>
>>>
>>> LC
>>
>> Answer me this does
>>
>> Does Steak compete directly with other food

Absolutely irrelevant You seem to think that the drama which comes
with competition is not as appreciated unless you support one of the
competitors. Seems that the whole idea is "strange".
But who enjoyed the MU 1 ---,Liverpool 4 game the most as a match.
Who enjoyed the football? The mistakes? The drama? Me, who could
not care less about the result, or the thousands of pissed off Man U fans?

My list above is absolutely valid. It shows that it is possible, even very
common,
to have a love for,,,,, appreciation .....passion - call it what you like-
for
something without having a favourite.

Believe it or not. I probably enjoyed Man U's last CL performance ( and
Arsenals)
just as much as you or their fans.

LC












From: Red Rackham on

"Lescor" <lescor(a)btinternet.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> "SteveH" <italiancar(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1jf5kne.7ghvds1gbd5hhN%italiancar(a)gmail.com...
>> Diablos Rojos <diablos_r0j0s(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> An emotional attachment to a game where you claim to follow nobody,
>>> you're
>>> right I find it quite strange but to be perfectly frank I think you're
>>> alleged impartiallity is absolute bollocks.
>>
>> I was under the impression he was a johnny come lately Chelski fan.
>> --
>> SteveH
>
> I was an" Arsenal fan" in one of my rare visits to that hardly used
> ChelseaNG,
> a" scouse koppite" or similar very frequenty in this and the Arsenal
> group
> and" Man U scum "in the Liverpool NG........and a secret Everton fan too.
>
> Seems that at least the posters have something in common. Despite many
> favourable comments, anything which smacks of criticism just has to be
> part of a secret agenda and not to be taken on face value.
>
> A bit pathetic mate.
>
>
> LC



Les, why do you still try and deny that you are a Chelsea fan?

Seriously.



From: Baldoni on
on 12/03/2010, Red Rackham supposed :
> "Lescor" <lescor(a)btinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:KMidnT_agq4BSwXWnZ2dnUVZ7tudnZ2d(a)bt.com...
>>
>>
>> "Google Beta User" <wanyikuli(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:473358bb-bc32-4411-b3e8-e40af064bda5(a)q23g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
>>> On Mar 10, 2:26 pm, italian...(a)gmail.com (SteveH) wrote:
>>> :
>>>> > An emotional attachment to a game where you claim to follow nobody,
>>>> you're
>>>> > right I find it quite strange but to be perfectly frank I think you're
>>>> > alleged impartiallity is absolute bollocks.
>>>>
>>>> I was under the impression he was a johnny come lately Chelski fan.
>>>
>>> Correct.
>>>
>>> He knows football history, and is "cultured" (whtatever that means)
>>> but I've suspected since he burst onto the scene that he's an
>>> undercover Chelski fan.
>>
>>
>> Cultured? What the hell is that supposed to mean? I know football
>> because I have been watching it for (probably) far longer than any other
>> around here, and did so mainly as a hard up working class lad standing
>> in the rain and freezing.
>
>
> Yeah, we don't get rain or cold anymore do we.
>
>
>>
>> Why understanding an interest which is not based on club bias is so
>> difficult to understand is beyond me.
>
>
> Shouldn't be, I've explained it to you often enough. You are as biased as any
> fan on these ngs. You barely mention United without getting in some kind of
> dig - they wouldn't be successful if they came from Exeter - ffs.
>
>
> Rest of your nonsense snipped.

If Utd came from Exeter and were not succesful then none of you on
these forums would be fans.

--
Count Baldoni

In hoc signo vinces


From: Lescor on


"DC" <a(a)a.com> wrote in message news:op.u9epf3mbwgp685(a)gateway-pc.lan...
> On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:57:42 -0000, Google Beta User <wanyikuli(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Mar 11, 7:03 am, DC <a...(a)a.com> wrote:
>>
>>> In the same way as Man Utd compete directly with Liverpool, Arsenal,
>>> and Chelsea?
>>
>> And in any case I'm a Liverpool fan, but I can enjoy Ronaldo, support
>> England, enjoy a Barcelona vs. Real Madrid game, hate Brazil, watch
>> the Africa CUp of Nations, etc etc.
>>
>> IT's not either/or.
>>
>>
>
> It can be enjoyed but at the very heart of human nature is a pack/Tribal
> nature a sense of belonging and to be an avid football fan and not be a
> part of that seems not very human to most and that is why many doubt
> Lescor. He is either thus highly likely to be one or a combination of the
> following.
>
> a) Lying
> b) Not Human
> c) Wind up Merchant
> d) Lacking something psychologically.
> e) Removed from the psychological source of football rivalry.
> f) Very low testosterone, possibly female, and a loner.


LOL.........but you left out one. A free thinking individual.

You know, someone who doesn't need the comfort of belonging
to a mob, group or faction and to faithfully follow them because
......because?.............because? err....because.... well. because that
is what we all do!

I probably wouldn't have joined the Hitler youth or Nazi party either
both of which offered group identity for those who needed it,,,, you know,
that pack identity and sense of belonging you mentioned.


LC




From: DC on
On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 09:04:09 -0000, Baldoni <BaldoniXXV(a)googlemail.com>
wrote:

> on 12/03/2010, Red Rackham supposed :
>> "Lescor" <lescor(a)btinternet.com> wrote in message
>> news:KMidnT_agq4BSwXWnZ2dnUVZ7tudnZ2d(a)bt.com...
>>>
>>>
>>> "Google Beta User" <wanyikuli(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:473358bb-bc32-4411-b3e8-e40af064bda5(a)q23g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
>>>> On Mar 10, 2:26 pm, italian...(a)gmail.com (SteveH) wrote:
>>>> :
>>>>> > An emotional attachment to a game where you claim to follow
>>>>> nobody, you're
>>>>> > right I find it quite strange but to be perfectly frank I think
>>>>> you're
>>>>> > alleged impartiallity is absolute bollocks.
>>>>>
>>>>> I was under the impression he was a johnny come lately Chelski fan.
>>>>
>>>> Correct.
>>>>
>>>> He knows football history, and is "cultured" (whtatever that means)
>>>> but I've suspected since he burst onto the scene that he's an
>>>> undercover Chelski fan.
>>>
>>>
>>> Cultured? What the hell is that supposed to mean? I know football
>>> because I have been watching it for (probably) far longer than any
>>> other
>>> around here, and did so mainly as a hard up working class lad standing
>>> in the rain and freezing.
>>
>>
>> Yeah, we don't get rain or cold anymore do we.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Why understanding an interest which is not based on club bias is so
>>> difficult to understand is beyond me.
>>
>>
>> Shouldn't be, I've explained it to you often enough. You are as biased
>> as any fan on these ngs. You barely mention United without getting in
>> some kind of dig - they wouldn't be successful if they came from Exeter
>> - ffs.
>>
>>
>> Rest of your nonsense snipped.
>
> If Utd came from Exeter and were not succesful then none of you on these
> forums would be fans.
>

We are very thankful they didn't. If it weren't for Man Utd crime would be
significantly higher. If they had been as you say from Exeter and not
successful there would be a hell of a lot of obsessives walking the
streets looking for targets. It makes you shudder don't it.

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