I think a takeover deal is done
in [Liverpool]
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From: lescor on 4 Aug 2010 06:30 "Mentalguy2k8" <Mentalguy2k8(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:yE%5o.69274$tB1.10547(a)hurricane... > > "michael adams" <mjadams25(a)ontel.net.uk> wrote in message > news:8brd13Fh0tU1(a)mid.individual.net... >> >> "Mentalguy2k8" <Mentalguy2k8(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:fQ_5o.17261$7Z3.11953(a)hurricane... >>> >>> "michael adams" <mjadams25(a)ontel.net.uk> wrote in message >>> news:8brab2F113U1(a)mid.individual.net... >>> >>> > And confirmed that they'd both stopped beating their wives, while they >>> > were at it I suppose. >>> >>> Ummm... yeah Ok. >>> >>> I'm just saying that the whole world knew there would be speculation >>> over >>> both of them during the summer, so why not just make a short statement >>> on >>> the last day of last season and say "I'm staying at Liverpool next >>> season, >>> now leave me alone"? >> >> As in "The Board has full confidence in the manager." you mean ? > > Not really, because they've both said in the last couple of weeks, > something which they could have said at the end of last season. What's > changed between then and now? I'm sure we all expected the transfer > speculation, they could have silenced all of that with one brief > statement. > > I just hope they haven't both done a Mascherano and agreed, reluctantly, > to give it "one more season". But this is the case with all players whether the agreement is stated or not. Contracts are meaningless. Expediency rules, but far better for all to sometimes hide that fact behind the cloak of loyalty. LC
From: michael adams on 4 Aug 2010 06:41 "lescor" <lescorbett(a)btinternet.com> wrote in message news:UMadnS_PKf_GosTRnZ2dnUVZ8jSdnZ2d(a)bt.com... > > > "michael adams" <mjadams25(a)ontel.net.uk> wrote in message > news:8brab2F113U1(a)mid.individual.net... > > > > "Mentalguy2k8" <Mentalguy2k8(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:BBZ5o.30747$LU.3823(a)hurricane... > >> > >> "michael adams" <mjadams25(a)ontel.net.uk> wrote in message > >> news:8br3phFo0sU1(a)mid.individual.net... > >> > > >> > "Mentalguy2k8" <Mentalguy2k8(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > >> > news:BbY5o.103990$zo4.69154(a)hurricane... > >> >> > >> >> "bofh" <lancj2(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > >> >> news:63dcd9e1-a56e-4b2c-b018-5bc05a0c7e2a(a)s9g2000yqd.googlegroups.com... > >> >> > On 3 Aug, 16:09, "michael adams" <mjadam...(a)ontel.net.uk> wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> According to what's appeared in the press he's never said any > >> >> >> different > >> >> >> to > >> >> >> anyone, his agent, assuming he has one, has never said any > >> >> >> different, > >> >> >> either. > >> >> >> The only people who ever claimed Torres was unsettled were Man City > >> >> >> and > >> >> >> Chelsea who are desperate to sign him and the hacks who feed off > >> >> >> their > >> >> >> press releases and will print just any old shite just to stay in > >> >> >> their > >> >> >> good books. > >> >> > > >> >> > ..and Mental, who wants him sold. > >> >> > >> >> I said we should sell him if he doesn't want to stay. > >> > > >> > <quote> > >> > > >> > Happily for Hodgson the man from Fuenlabrada, a working-class Madrid > >> > outskirt, > >> > is big on quaintly old-fashioned concepts such as loyalty and community > >> > identity. > >> > Were he English, a distinctly non-stereotypical 'star' frequently seen > >> > walking his > >> > dogs in Liverpool parks would probably be a perfect poster boy for > >> > David > >> > Cameron's > >> > 'big society'. > >> > > >> > Moreover, in a world where leading strikers frequently see themselves > >> > as > >> > expensive > >> > guns always discreetly available for hire to the highest bidder, Torres > >> > shuns > >> > the idea of a mercenary's life. > >> > > >> > A natural desire for involvement in realistic pursuits of the game's > >> > biggest > >> > domestic prizes is tempered by the real contentment he feels on > >> > Merseyside > >> > where Liverpool FC retains a considerable pull on his emotions. > >> > > >> > Torres - who said he would struggle to play for another team in Spain > >> > after > >> > reluctantly leaving Atl�tico Madrid for England - swiftly became > >> > similarly > >> > attached to an atmospheric, evocative Anfield habitat which appeals to > >> > his > >> > romantic streak. Visitors to the home he shares with his pregnant wife > >> > and > >> > one-year-old daughter are constantly surprised by the number of > >> > well-thumbed > >> > books and oft viewed DVDs detailing the club and city's history. > >> > > >> > "What my club represents is very important," he says. "If you know what > >> > your > >> > club stands for and you are part of it you will play better because it > >> > means > >> > more to you. Every time I pull on a Liverpool shirt I know it's more > >> > than > >> > just > >> > a game. Liverpool has a mentality, an identity, I like. They are a > >> > hard-working > >> > people's club. They are huge but with a humility > >> > > >> > </quote> > >> > > >> > http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2010/aug/03/fernando-torres-liverpool > >> > >> It's a shame Torres and Gerrard > > > > > > Who mentioned Stevie ? > > > > Unlike Torres, Gerrard has been itching to leave on and off since > > before Rafa took over. He had to be persuaded to stay. > > > > The only time Torres looked really pissed off was when he was subbed > > without explanation. > > > > I'd imagine the first thing Hodgson said to him was "you wanna play > > all 90 minutes son, you can play all ninety minutes with me. No arguments. > > And no more scribbling in f*cking notebooks either. > > > > > >> couldn't have spared a couple of minutes to > >> pledge their allegiance and commitment to Liverpool at the end of last > >> season, or during the World Cup. > > > > And confirmed that they'd both stopped beating their wives, while they > > were at it I suppose. > > No. Just that I have a contract with the club and intend to honour it. > > > LC > When has Torres, his agent if he has one, or anyone else, ever said he didn't intend to honour his contract ? All that confirming that he intended to honour his contract would achieve, would be to raise the possibility in people's minds that there was some chance that he might not. That's like going to a party or function and saying "Hello I'm Jim, this is my wife Margery. And I can assure all of you that we're happily married and have no intention of getting a divorce in the coming year". michael adams .... michael adams ....
From: michael adams on 4 Aug 2010 06:48 "lescor" <lescorbett(a)btinternet.com> wrote in message news:2fCdnUl2KKLR3MTRnZ2dnUVZ8omdnZ2d(a)bt.com... > > > But this is the case with all players whether the agreement is stated or > not. Contracts are meaningless. Expediency rules, but far better for all > to sometimes hide that fact behind the cloak of loyalty. > > LC > Footballers, like people in general are all different. According to the article I quoted earlier, Torres walks his dogs in the local parks. Now can you seriously see someone like Spudface or the Ladybody doing something like that ? michael adams ....
From: lescor on 4 Aug 2010 07:00 "michael adams" <mjadams25(a)ontel.net.uk> wrote in message news:8brglvF6kpU1(a)mid.individual.net... > > "Mentalguy2k8" <Mentalguy2k8(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > news:yE%5o.69274$tB1.10547(a)hurricane... >> >> "michael adams" <mjadams25(a)ontel.net.uk> wrote in message >> news:8brd13Fh0tU1(a)mid.individual.net... >> > >> > "Mentalguy2k8" <Mentalguy2k8(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> > news:fQ_5o.17261$7Z3.11953(a)hurricane... >> >> >> >> "michael adams" <mjadams25(a)ontel.net.uk> wrote in message >> >> news:8brab2F113U1(a)mid.individual.net... >> >> >> >> > And confirmed that they'd both stopped beating their wives, while >> >> > they >> >> > were at it I suppose. >> >> >> >> Ummm... yeah Ok. >> >> >> >> I'm just saying that the whole world knew there would be speculation >> >> over >> >> both of them during the summer, so why not just make a short statement >> >> on >> >> the last day of last season and say "I'm staying at Liverpool next >> >> season, >> >> now leave me alone"? >> > >> > As in "The Board has full confidence in the manager." you mean ? >> >> Not really, because they've both said in the last couple of weeks, >> something >> which they could have said at the end of last season. > > Torres and Gerrard are two different people. How many more times ? > > Anyway, at the end of last season both Torres and Gerrard were > concentrating on > the forthcoming World Cup. > > That's what they were focussed on. Focused on? LOL.....are you really saying that they cannot handle training whilst making a simple statement? LC
From: lescor on 4 Aug 2010 07:24
"michael adams" <mjadams25(a)ontel.net.uk> wrote in message news:8bsubgFit7U1(a)mid.individual.net... > > "lescor" <lescorbett(a)btinternet.com> wrote in message > news:UMadnS_PKf_GosTRnZ2dnUVZ8jSdnZ2d(a)bt.com... >> >> >> "michael adams" <mjadams25(a)ontel.net.uk> wrote in message >> news:8brab2F113U1(a)mid.individual.net... >> > >> > "Mentalguy2k8" <Mentalguy2k8(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> > news:BBZ5o.30747$LU.3823(a)hurricane... >> >> >> >> "michael adams" <mjadams25(a)ontel.net.uk> wrote in message >> >> news:8br3phFo0sU1(a)mid.individual.net... >> >> > >> >> > "Mentalguy2k8" <Mentalguy2k8(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> >> > news:BbY5o.103990$zo4.69154(a)hurricane... >> >> >> >> >> >> "bofh" <lancj2(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> >> >> news:63dcd9e1-a56e-4b2c-b018-5bc05a0c7e2a(a)s9g2000yqd.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> > On 3 Aug, 16:09, "michael adams" <mjadam...(a)ontel.net.uk> wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> According to what's appeared in the press he's never said any >> >> >> >> different >> >> >> >> to >> >> >> >> anyone, his agent, assuming he has one, has never said any >> >> >> >> different, >> >> >> >> either. >> >> >> >> The only people who ever claimed Torres was unsettled were Man >> >> >> >> City >> >> >> >> and >> >> >> >> Chelsea who are desperate to sign him and the hacks who feed off >> >> >> >> their >> >> >> >> press releases and will print just any old shite just to stay in >> >> >> >> their >> >> >> >> good books. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > ..and Mental, who wants him sold. >> >> >> >> >> >> I said we should sell him if he doesn't want to stay. >> >> > >> >> > <quote> >> >> > >> >> > Happily for Hodgson the man from Fuenlabrada, a working-class Madrid >> >> > outskirt, >> >> > is big on quaintly old-fashioned concepts such as loyalty and >> >> > community >> >> > identity. >> >> > Were he English, a distinctly non-stereotypical 'star' frequently >> >> > seen >> >> > walking his >> >> > dogs in Liverpool parks would probably be a perfect poster boy for >> >> > David >> >> > Cameron's >> >> > 'big society'. >> >> > >> >> > Moreover, in a world where leading strikers frequently see >> >> > themselves >> >> > as >> >> > expensive >> >> > guns always discreetly available for hire to the highest bidder, >> >> > Torres >> >> > shuns >> >> > the idea of a mercenary's life. >> >> > >> >> > A natural desire for involvement in realistic pursuits of the game's >> >> > biggest >> >> > domestic prizes is tempered by the real contentment he feels on >> >> > Merseyside >> >> > where Liverpool FC retains a considerable pull on his emotions. >> >> > >> >> > Torres - who said he would struggle to play for another team in >> >> > Spain >> >> > after >> >> > reluctantly leaving Atl�tico Madrid for England - swiftly became >> >> > similarly >> >> > attached to an atmospheric, evocative Anfield habitat which appeals >> >> > to >> >> > his >> >> > romantic streak. Visitors to the home he shares with his pregnant >> >> > wife >> >> > and >> >> > one-year-old daughter are constantly surprised by the number of >> >> > well-thumbed >> >> > books and oft viewed DVDs detailing the club and city's history. >> >> > >> >> > "What my club represents is very important," he says. "If you know >> >> > what >> >> > your >> >> > club stands for and you are part of it you will play better because >> >> > it >> >> > means >> >> > more to you. Every time I pull on a Liverpool shirt I know it's more >> >> > than >> >> > just >> >> > a game. Liverpool has a mentality, an identity, I like. They are a >> >> > hard-working >> >> > people's club. They are huge but with a humility >> >> > >> >> > </quote> >> >> > >> >> > http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2010/aug/03/fernando-torres-liverpool >> >> >> >> It's a shame Torres and Gerrard >> > >> > >> > Who mentioned Stevie ? >> > >> > Unlike Torres, Gerrard has been itching to leave on and off since >> > before Rafa took over. He had to be persuaded to stay. >> > >> > The only time Torres looked really pissed off was when he was subbed >> > without explanation. >> > >> > I'd imagine the first thing Hodgson said to him was "you wanna play >> > all 90 minutes son, you can play all ninety minutes with me. No >> > arguments. >> > And no more scribbling in f*cking notebooks either. >> > >> > >> >> couldn't have spared a couple of minutes to >> >> pledge their allegiance and commitment to Liverpool at the end of last >> >> season, or during the World Cup. >> > >> > And confirmed that they'd both stopped beating their wives, while they >> > were at it I suppose. >> >> No. Just that I have a contract with the club and intend to honour it. >> >> >> LC >> > > > > When has Torres, his agent if he has one, or anyone else, ever said he > didn't > intend to honour his contract ? > > All that confirming that he intended to honour his contract would achieve, > would be to raise the possibility in people's minds that there was some > chance that he might not. > > That's like going to a party or function and saying "Hello I'm Jim, > this is my wife Margery. And I can assure all of you that we're happily > married > and have no intention of getting a divorce in the coming year". > > > michael adams Not so Michael, and I know that you know it. Just remember the facts. Speculation about his future started long before the season ended. Would he stay if 4th place was not on? An unequivocal statement that he intended to stay would have prevented that. You might have noticed that it is a demand to leave, or complete silence, which precedes all moves by the star players. I cannot remember one move which followed the simple comment that " I am not going anywhere" LC |