From: Deeppe on 22 Jun 2010 09:43 On Jun 21, 8:31 am, "Paul C" <p...(a)thersgb.net> wrote: A couple of good World Cup oriented referee review sites. http://referees.worldcupblog.org/ http://worldreferee.com/ (note on the left their WC rankings of the various referees)
From: Paul C on 22 Jun 2010 10:20 "Abubakr" <deltarasha(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:9226e85b-f673-4448-a83c-f52423223b7f(a)b3g2000prd.googlegroups.com... On Jun 22, 11:33 pm, Cl�ment <lcmello.lis...(a)terra.com.br> wrote: > On Jun 22, 10:29 am, HASM wrote: > > > "Paul C" writes: > > > If there isn't one already, shouldn't FIFA create a world ranking of > > > referees so that only the top 20 or so get to officiate in the WC > > > Finals? > > > They do that already, but they need to allocate those through the > > confederations, just like they do teams, i.e. the teams currently on the > > tournament are not the top 32 teams in the world either. > > They don't really *need* to, they want to. There's no comparative rating system, so far as I know, so it's not so any such selection process, i.e. 20 top referees in the world, won't be so straightforward. All referees are surely assessed to a common standard. Aren't they!?
From: Deeppe on 22 Jun 2010 11:29 On Jun 22, 7:20 am, "Paul C" <p...(a)thersgb.net> wrote: > "Abubakr" <deltara...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:9226e85b-f673-4448-a83c-f52423223b7f(a)b3g2000prd.googlegroups.com... > On Jun 22, 11:33 pm, Cl ment <lcmello.lis...(a)terra.com.br> wrote: > > > On Jun 22, 10:29 am, HASM wrote: > > > > "Paul C" writes: > > > > If there isn't one already, shouldn't FIFA create a world ranking of > > > > referees so that only the top 20 or so get to officiate in the WC > > > > Finals? > > > > They do that already, but they need to allocate those through the > > > confederations, just like they do teams, i.e. the teams currently on the > > > tournament are not the top 32 teams in the world either. > > > They don't really *need* to, they want to. > > There's no comparative rating system, so far as I know, so it's not so > any such selection process, i.e. 20 top referees in the world, won't > be so straightforward. > > All referees are surely assessed to a common standard. > > Aren't they!? By assessors taught to assess by the same standards. Or so it should be. Reality intrudes however. And there's little to nothing to take into account any particular game's "degree of difficulty". What FIFA could do better is developement of their badged referees (not all EPL, SeriesA, etc. refs are FIFA refs you'll notice) by getting more of them involved in top level and international matches. Especially those from countries with weaker professional leagues. Problem with doing a top whatever is that you could end up with an English official refereeing a Englan-Italy quarter final. Can you imagine that? FIFA takes the (completely understandable IMO) stance that if you're acredited to be a FIFA referee, then dammit, you're capable of doing FIFA games. I guarantee that within a given tournament, the bottom ranked officials don't move on. that Saudi who did yesterdaay's game? Gone. The guy from Mali? Same, won't see any more of him next round, even if he has a good history.
From: HASM on 22 Jun 2010 11:35 Clément <lcmello.listas(a)terra.com.br> writes: >> They do that already, but they need to allocate those through the >> confederations, just like they do teams, i.e. the teams currently on the >> tournament are not the top 32 teams in the world either.  > They don't really *need* to, they want to. In a way they need to, as the other Confeds would not take that lightly when it comes to vote for Blatter. -- HASM
From: Adama on 22 Jun 2010 12:44
"Paul C" <paul(a)thersgb.net> a �crit dans le message de news: 889evdFelvU1(a)mid.individual.net... The french referee Lannoy who represented France as well as the players has already been sent home by FIFA after the Brazil - CIV game. There were no french referees at EC08. This is a nightmare right ? Soon, I'll wake up and it will be may 2002. |