From: Google Beta User on
On Feb 11, 10:29 am, "Mentalguy2k8" <Mentalguy...(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> > It is dumb and stupid to support a club (note the word I used), even
> > if you have worries, through rough times.
>
> > Should only support a club (note the word) in good times.
>
> > Gotcha.
>
> I think it's possible to support a club but not agree with the choice of
> manager, players, tactics, etc.

Of course.

> I think Pope does make some good points sometimes,

I think he is intentionally over the top, and he does know his
football (though he prefers not to talk it these days). The gloating
when we lose is a little off though, he seems to derive legit pleasure
out of it.

I think killfiling him is unnecessary though.

> If anyone can look back at this season when it's over, and say that it's
> been a good season, they're deluded.

Hasn't been good :(

You figure we'll get fourth?

United will win their fourth straight, with what is their weakest team
in a while and you've got to hand it to SAF, he just keeps them
getting *results*.

From: Pope Pompous XVIII on
On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 07:19:54 -0800, Google Beta User wrote:

> I get it.
>
> Football fans should be "neutral" like Lescor.
>
> Mancs should've started supporting....Everton in the mid-80s.
>
> Sunderland or Hull should have a lot of new fans this season, that'd be
> the right thing, becasue only fools would still be supporting Newcastle
> (by the way their fans should've been DELIGHTED at being relegated.
> hahaha. That's what the ignorant 'know it all' Newastle fans deserve).
>
> It is dumb and stupid to support a club (note the word I used), even if
> you have worries, through rough times.
>
> Should only support a club (note the word) in good times.
>
> Gotcha.


You don't seem to have "got" me at all GBU. If there is a constant
refrain in everything I say it is the rather simple point that if you
(generic) want support *now* when Rafa is failing at an alarming rate
then you (generic) should have demanded the *same* support when Houllier
was committing the *very same crimes*. Otherwise you (generic) will come
across as a bit of a hypocrite and people will rightly scorn your
(generic) demands for support *now*, especially considering you (generic)
weren't prepared to give it six years ago, when Houllier was sacked for
finishing fourth, for playing awful football, for fielding terrible
players, and for making pathetic excuse after pathetic excuse when we
lost.

Just the way it is now. Strange how things turn out eh?

So now the question is, why are you questioning MY support, when I have
put myself on the line to stand up for a Liverpool manager who was and
still is abused by so-called Liverpool fans? Why do you assume it is I
who is in the wrong, when "all around you there are so-called fans in
this very newsgroup" still mocking a Liverpool manager and mocking the
players he bought, players who have won the only honours worth talking
about since 2001?

Strange how it goes eh? I support the manager through thick and thin and
then I get lambasted for not supporting the manager. Then I turn a few
things on their heads just to show them what support is and the fools
think I've completely turned sides.

But I expected better of you tbh.

PS If I don't talk football these days ( *everything* I say in here is
football-related by the way and if you don't understand that you don't
understand football), it's because Rafa and his stars have given us no
*football* to talk about.

Try uk.sport.pinball.clubs.liverpool instead.

HTH

--
“In fact that seasonal forecast predicting a mild winter wasn't actually
wrong, but it left people with the wrong impression” - Susan Watts, BBC
Science Editor, Newsnight, 7-1-2010
From: REDDEVIL6 on
On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:29:38 -0000, "Mentalguy2k8"
<Mentalguy2k8(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>
>"Google Beta User" <wanyikuli(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:5869164c-30dc-41bc-a97f-363f7cdcfe50(a)b7g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
>>I get it.
>>
>> Football fans should be "neutral" like Lescor.
>>
>> Mancs should've started supporting....Everton in the mid-80s.
>>
>> Sunderland or Hull should have a lot of new fans this season, that'd
>> be the right thing, becasue only fools would still be supporting
>> Newcastle (by the way their fans should've been DELIGHTED at being
>> relegated. hahaha. That's what the ignorant 'know it all' Newastle
>> fans deserve).
>>
>> It is dumb and stupid to support a club (note the word I used), even
>> if you have worries, through rough times.
>>
>> Should only support a club (note the word) in good times.
>>
>> Gotcha.
>
>I think it's possible to support a club but not agree with the choice of
>manager, players, tactics, etc.
>
>The problem with Liverpool (and probably most sides who are underachieving)
>is that you'll always get a percentage of saps who swallow everything that's
>said or written by people with a vested interest in keeping them on-board.
>There's always a smaller percentage who can be more objective, but they are
>usually slapped down and mocked by the saps.
>
>I think Pope does make some good points sometimes, although I don't agree
>with him about Houllier and I don't agree with the gloating posts when we
>lose. Maybe if he didn't come across as so anti-Liverpool, people might
>start listening a bit more. But I doubt it.
>
>If anyone can look back at this season when it's over, and say that it's
>been a good season, they're deluded.


He's an ignorant piece of human filth
From: Lawrence Jenkins on

"Diablos Rojos" <diablos_r0j0s(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:7ths48Fjf5U1(a)mid.individual.net...
>
> "Pope Pompous XVIII" <popepompousxviii(a)popesnews.invalid> wrote in message
> news:20100211002906.c01e982d.popepompousxviii(a)popesnews.invalid...
>>
>> If a manager like Ferguson sends his side out to defend for their lives
>> and hit Arsenal on the counter that's because he is afraid of what
>> Arsenal can do. Not because he thinks his side are superior.
>>
>
> I take it you didn't actually watch the game?
>
> Ignorance is bliss eh, they were outplayed at every turn.
>

If you gentleman don't mind me interjecting I have to say that on many
occassions recently United have looked the dogs bollocks when compared to
Liverpool and Arsenal and the only team that comes close for skill plus of
character and physical strength is Chelsea. I thought last night we were
amazing with some passages of play despite having ten men. we showed that
against Arsenal. But as people have commented its a very open championship
this season but definitley ourselves and Chelsea merit their postitions. It
may be like this to the very end of the season but it will still be us or
Chelsea I believe. Liverpool are so dull and Arsenal almost feeble against
the bigger clubs. Arsenal will remain so until they have a Rooney or Drogba
up front and Liverpool will remain so until Rafa goes.


From: Mentalguy2k8 on

"Google Beta User" <wanyikuli(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Feb 11, 10:29 am, "Mentalguy2k8" <Mentalguy...(a)gmail.com> wrote:


>Hasn't been good :(

>You figure we'll get fourth?

I really don't know. I have a feeling we won't. But after our recent form in
Europe, I don't see much point in qualifying for it (except financially).

>United will win their fourth straight, with what is their weakest team
>in a while and you've got to hand it to SAF, he just keeps them
>getting *results*.

I think Chelsea will do it. I hope they or Arsenal do, I just don't know if
they'll be consistent enough. I think Utd have a few dropped points to come,
but although Chelsea have a fairly tough run-in, I still think they're
favourites.