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From: Red Rackham on 21 Apr 2010 07:02 "Red Rackham" <ONeil37(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:... > > "Red Rackham" <ONeil37(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:uFAzn.35374$c71.26745(a)newsfe24.ams2... >> >> "Newton Heath" <newton.heath07(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message >> news:dfbb5eff-c561-4c4d-819d-9cc54c2f9e8f(a)q23g2000yqd.googlegroups.com... >>> On 19 Apr, 10:34, "Red Rackham" <ONei...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> "Diablos Rojos" <diablos_r0j0s(spam)@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>> >>>> news:832m23FvbsU1(a)mid.individual.net... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> > "Red Rackham" <ONei...(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>> >news:dkVyn.5322$Za.735(a)newsfe13.ams2... >>>> >> If, in the unlikely circumstance of us winning the league this >>>> >> season, I >>>> >> have a sneaking suspicion that SAF would take the opportunity to >>>> >> retire. >>>> >> Mission 'knock Liverpool off their perch', would be well and truly >>>> >> completed. >>>> >>>> >> The question is, would United fans find this an acceptable price to >>>> >> pay >>>> >> for a possible 19th title? >>>> >>>> > He won't go, there's still plenty of life left in the old dog yet. >>>> >>>> > I hope. >>>> >>>> Hope you're right. Papers have decided it's going to be Mourinho left >>>> which >>>> I think would be a disaster. >>> >>> Whatever, but it will happen one day. Maureen wouldn't be that bad a >>> choice, accept for having to extend his office so his ego could fit, >>> and how he always seems to be eyeing up his next job. >>> >>> Given SAF's success, we would surely look for someone of a similar >>> mould. These aren't my choices but I can only see Big Eck or Big Eyes >> >> >> ?? >> >> I like Jose. Never a dull interview, charismatic and he'd certainly >> increase the hatred of the abus which can't be a bad thing. >> >> But he builds his team from defence and none of his sides have had much >> width or flair, things that are part of the very fabric of United. He's >> also not one for the long haul. As another poster has said, I don't want >> the start of another managerial merry go round with them in and out of >> the door every two or three years. >> >> Despite United obviously being the top job in the world, I don't think it >> would be too long before Jose felt that he hadn't won the league in >> Germany, France or South America and he'd be off. >> >> I'm leaning towards Moyes with Ole as his assistant. I wouldn't picket >> the ground if O'Neill got the job but he too can be a bit defensive for >> my liking. >> >> I would prefer the next one to be British, purely because that's what the >> most successful managers in our history have been. > > > Although I might make an exception in the case of Pep Guardiola. > Especially if he brought Messi, Iniesta and Xavi with him. > > But he is at the second biggest club in the world where he was also a > successful player and Barcelona has almost as much to offer as Manchester > with the tiny additions of sunshine and a beach. > > Can't really see it myself. Of course, the absolutely #1 choice is for Fergie to stay until he can no longer walk the touchline to the dugout. If this rumour that he's leaving after one more year carries on growing then we could be in for another lame duck season like the last time we thought he was going. Life after SAF will be traumatic. We might not challenge for a year or two even if we bring in the right man. In fact, life after Fergie is a thoroughly depressing thought. I can handle not challenging, not winning trophies, I had that for years supporting United, but for so long Manchester United and SAF have been exactly the same thing. Having to readjust the way you think about the club you've supported all your life will not be an easy task at all.
From: Newton Heath on 27 Apr 2010 04:58 On 21 Apr, 11:43, "Red Rackham" <ONei...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > "Newton Heath" <newton.heat...(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message > > news:dfbb5eff-c561-4c4d-819d-9cc54c2f9e8f(a)q23g2000yqd.googlegroups.com... > > > > > > > On 19 Apr, 10:34, "Red Rackham" <ONei...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > I like Jose. Never a dull interview, charismatic and he'd certainly increase > the hatred of the abus which can't be a bad thing. So do I but this ain't a personality contest. Being liked is overrated anyway. > Despite United obviously being the top job in the world, I don't think it > would be too long before Jose felt that he hadn't won the league in Germany, > France or South America and he'd be off. So you agree with me on this. > I'm leaning towards Moyes with Ole as his assistant. You got the Big Eyes thing then? No mention of Big Eck though? A Fergie understudy, if ever there was one and always done a job wherever he's been. > I wouldn't picket the ground if O'Neill got the job but he too can be a bit defensive for my > liking. I think O'Neill has been defensive because of what he has had to work with, namely nothing. Everywhere he has been he has had to fix things. Normally you start by trying to concede fewer goals then taking it from there. Nothing needs fixing at United. It could be that circumstances have dictated how he has worked in the past and given United are different, his approach could be different. > I would prefer the next one to be British, purely because that's what the > most successful managers in our history have been. I would prefer the guy's CV to come before his passport. So basically Red, we agree on the things we don't disagree on. And on those things we disagree on, we don't agree. So if we could agree with what we disagree on, we wouldn't have any disagreements. Do you agree?
From: Red Rackham on 27 Apr 2010 05:42 "Newton Heath" <newton.heath07(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message news:a98b1230-0ea9-446a-98e5-daedd7dd70e2(a)k36g2000yqn.googlegroups.com... > On 21 Apr, 11:43, "Red Rackham" <ONei...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> "Newton Heath" <newton.heat...(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message >> >> news:dfbb5eff-c561-4c4d-819d-9cc54c2f9e8f(a)q23g2000yqd.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> >> >> >> > On 19 Apr, 10:34, "Red Rackham" <ONei...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >> I like Jose. Never a dull interview, charismatic and he'd certainly >> increase >> the hatred of the abus which can't be a bad thing. > So do I but this ain't a personality contest. Being liked is > overrated anyway. > > >> Despite United obviously being the top job in the world, I don't think it >> would be too long before Jose felt that he hadn't won the league in >> Germany, >> France or South America and he'd be off. > So you agree with me on this. > >> I'm leaning towards Moyes with Ole as his assistant. > You got the Big Eyes thing then? No mention of Big Eck though? A > Fergie understudy, if ever there was one and always done a job > wherever he's been. Sorry, who or what is Big Eck? > >> I wouldn't picket the ground if O'Neill got the job but he too can be a >> bit defensive for my >> liking. > I think O'Neill has been defensive because of what he has had to work > with, namely nothing. Everywhere he has been he has had to fix > things. Normally you start by trying to concede fewer goals then > taking it from there. Nothing needs fixing at United. It could be > that circumstances have dictated how he has worked in the past and > given United are different, his approach could be different. > > >> I would prefer the next one to be British, purely because that's what the >> most successful managers in our history have been. > I would prefer the guy's CV to come before his passport. > > So basically Red, we agree on the things we don't disagree on. And on > those things we disagree on, we don't agree. So if we could agree > with what we disagree on, we wouldn't have any disagreements. Do you > agree? No.
From: Red Rackham on 27 Apr 2010 05:46 "Red Rackham" <ONeil37(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:... > > "Newton Heath" <newton.heath07(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message > news:a98b1230-0ea9-446a-98e5-daedd7dd70e2(a)k36g2000yqn.googlegroups.com... >> On 21 Apr, 11:43, "Red Rackham" <ONei...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> "Newton Heath" <newton.heat...(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message >>> >>> news:dfbb5eff-c561-4c4d-819d-9cc54c2f9e8f(a)q23g2000yqd.googlegroups.com... >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > On 19 Apr, 10:34, "Red Rackham" <ONei...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> >>> I like Jose. Never a dull interview, charismatic and he'd certainly >>> increase >>> the hatred of the abus which can't be a bad thing. >> So do I but this ain't a personality contest. Being liked is >> overrated anyway. >> >> >>> Despite United obviously being the top job in the world, I don't think >>> it >>> would be too long before Jose felt that he hadn't won the league in >>> Germany, >>> France or South America and he'd be off. >> So you agree with me on this. >> >>> I'm leaning towards Moyes with Ole as his assistant. >> You got the Big Eyes thing then? No mention of Big Eck though? A >> Fergie understudy, if ever there was one and always done a job >> wherever he's been. > > > Sorry, who or what is Big Eck? > Just googled it. The sad fact is that there isn't a single person in the world, no fantasy signing, that I could get remotely excited about after SAF. It's going to be a dark, dark day.
From: Baldoni on 27 Apr 2010 08:24
Red Rack ham explained : > "Newton Heath" <newton.heath07(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message > news:a98b1230-0ea9-446a-98e5-daedd7dd70e2(a)k36g2000yqn.googlegroups.com... >> On 21 Apr, 11:43, "Red Rackham" <ONei...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> "Newton Heath" <newton.heat...(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message >>> >>> news:dfbb5eff-c561-4c4d-819d-9cc54c2f9e8f(a)q23g2000yqd.googlegroups.com... >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > On 19 Apr, 10:34, "Red Rackham" <ONei...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> >>> I like Jose. Never a dull interview, charismatic and he'd certainly >>> increase >>> the hatred of the abus which can't be a bad thing. >> So do I but this ain't a personality contest. Being liked is >> overrated anyway. >> >> >>> Despite United obviously being the top job in the world, I don't think it >>> would be too long before Jose felt that he hadn't won the league in >>> Germany, >>> France or South America and he'd be off. >> So you agree with me on this. >> >>> I'm leaning towards Moyes with Ole as his assistant. >> You got the Big Eyes thing then? No mention of Big Eck though? A >> Fergie understudy, if ever there was one and always done a job >> wherever he's been. > > > Sorry, who or what is Big Eck? Hey thickarse "Eck" is a term given to folk with the name of Alex. The guy is referring to Alex McCleish, a good friend of Ferguson. -- Count Baldoni In hoc signo vinces |