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From: Sven Mischkies on 11 Apr 2010 12:32 <http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2010/apr/11/bundesliga-premier- league> Ciao, SM -- http://www.gourockviews.co.uk I find the whole business of religion profoundly interesting. But it does mystify me that otherwise intelligent people take it seriously. Douglas Adams
From: Bruce D. Scott on 12 Apr 2010 14:53 Sven Mischkies (hsv83(a)der-ball-ist-rund.net) wrote: : <http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2010/apr/11/bundesliga-premier- : league> The key to this is the strong regime of control by the league. If the various "let the free market decide" proposals we get every year or two ever get their way, the BLiga will go the way of other leagues. -- ciao, Bruce drift wave turbulence: http://www.rzg.mpg.de/~bds/
From: MH on 12 Apr 2010 16:17 Bruce D. Scott wrote: > Sven Mischkies (hsv83(a)der-ball-ist-rund.net) wrote: > : <http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2010/apr/11/bundesliga-premier- > : league> > > The key to this is the strong regime of control by the league. If the > various "let the free market decide" proposals we get every year or two > ever get their way, the BLiga will go the way of other leagues. That is true. Also true is that the stadium building/renovation binge of the last couple of decades has certainly helped attendances. They were nowhere near as high in my day, and couldn't have come close for teams like Gladbach. Plus big draws like Hertha, Schalke and a few others were in the second league for part of that time , too, whereas we had teams like Uerdingen, Mannheim etc. with low attendances. > > -- > ciao, > Bruce > > drift wave turbulence: http://www.rzg.mpg.de/~bds/
From: Matthias Mühlich on 12 Apr 2010 19:32 MH schrieb: > Bruce D. Scott wrote: >> Sven Mischkies (hsv83(a)der-ball-ist-rund.net) wrote: >> : >> <http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2010/apr/11/bundesliga-premier- >> : league> >> >> The key to this is the strong regime of control by the league. If the >> various "let the free market decide" proposals we get every year or two >> ever get their way, the BLiga will go the way of other leagues. > > That is true. > Also true is that the stadium building/renovation binge of the last > couple of decades has certainly helped attendances. They were nowhere > near as high in my day, and couldn't have come close for teams like > Gladbach. Plus big draws like Hertha, Schalke and a few others were in > the second league for part of that time , too, whereas we had teams like > Uerdingen, Mannheim etc. with low attendances. Now we have Hoffenheim and Wolfsburg.
From: Bruce D. Scott on 13 Apr 2010 07:21
MH (MHnospam(a)ucalgary.ca) wrote: : Bruce D. Scott wrote: : > Sven Mischkies (hsv83(a)der-ball-ist-rund.net) wrote: : > : <http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2010/apr/11/bundesliga-premier- : > : league> : > : > The key to this is the strong regime of control by the league. If the : > various "let the free market decide" proposals we get every year or two : > ever get their way, the BLiga will go the way of other leagues. : That is true. : Also true is that the stadium building/renovation binge of the last : couple of decades has certainly helped attendances. They were nowhere : near as high in my day, and couldn't have come close for teams like : Gladbach. Plus big draws like Hertha, Schalke and a few others were in : the second league for part of that time , too, whereas we had teams like : Uerdingen, Mannheim etc. with low attendances. I forget, was that late 80s or early 90s? I arrived 1988. Nevertheless, Bayern averaged around 20k and for bigger matches (EF or HSV for example) it was about 50k, so I could always get a ticket. Something happened circa 85-92 or so. My friends told me things used to be ugly between fans but it really calmed down, and it was not clear why. Maybe this had something to do with attendances. In the end run of the 93/94 season it started getting really hard to get tickets, and that Fall was probably the last time I could have managed to get a season ticket. But luckily I did manage. Nowadays it is very hard, and away tickets are impossible for Bayern. Apropos cheap BLiga tickets? Before the Euro they were a factor of two cheaper in many places than they are now. Of course, new stadiums. But it's also about 2 DM per Euro :-) -- ciao, Bruce drift wave turbulence: http://www.rzg.mpg.de/~bds/ |