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From: news.giganews.com on 21 Jun 2010 23:49 "The Scrutineer" <vlade4(a)bigpond.com> wrote in message news:GeLTn.3997$Ls1.2221(a)news-server.bigpond.net.au... > > > "Diabolik" <diabolik(a)nospam.com> wrote in message > news:c%KTn.3992$Ls1.2010(a)news-server.bigpond.net.au... >> >> <ken.overton(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:c6a624f7-054a-41a8-b9d2-e19f7c6dc479(a)u7g2000yqm.googlegroups.com... >> On Jun 21, 4:47 am, "Diabolik" <diabo...(a)nospam.com> wrote: >>> <snip> >> >>> I seem to recall you saying to me "Yes, let's talk about football!" >>> instead of all this fan-whining talk. >> >>> Is someone holding your child hostage, forcing you to spend so much >>> time talking about the fans instead of the football? >> >> There's too much Italy bashing going on, it's impossible to talk about >> football. >> >> I found it appalling. > > I dont bash Italy, I love Italy, been there, have Italian relatives, and > will go there again in the future, it just hurts when someone calls > Australia as a whinging nation that I get annoyed at. Your own people are saying to stop whining, including Frank Lowy, the chairman of the Australian Football Federation. http://www.smh.com.au/world-cup-2010/world-cup-news/lowy-warning-on-whingeing-20100621-ysd3.html > We play sport hard but fair, and the lowest an opponent can get to is > *taking a dive*, which is a non issue in every sport in Australia except > when we play football against someone who uses it to our disadvantage, its > taken a very long time for Football to get to where it is today, and it > also hurts, when you hear the uneducated soccer viewer in Australia say, > *oh its just a game where people just get knocked over by thin air*, The point is, even without the dive, it's a foul, so nothing changes. The shirt pulling from the NZ player was a foul, period. > and that newspaper you mention in another thread does its best to throw > the sport into the ground. That paper is the major paper in Australia, it's appalling. > Show some respect, or people like me will return fire with the jibe like I > did. Australians should show some respect too, or people like me will return fire.
From: news.giganews.com on 21 Jun 2010 23:49 "The Scrutineer" <vlade4(a)bigpond.com> wrote in message news:%8LTn.3996$Ls1.1688(a)news-server.bigpond.net.au... >>>> 1) Was it not a deserved red card for Kewell? Why are players like >>>> Kewell whining? >>> >>> That depends on who the referee is, and how he deemed it to be >>> intentional or not. A different referee might have waved it away. >> >> Either it's intentional or it isn't. > > So what part of what I said isn't correct? > >>>> 2) The first gol was offside, the second might have been a soft >>>> penalty, so that makes it even. So where was NZ robbed? >>> >>> The first point, the linesman made a blatant error, but the goal was >>> given, tough luck, the second was a very poor refereeing decision, no >>> where that I know of does the referee have to even anything up. >>> >>> The second point, I dont know, you tell me!!! >> >> You admit it was even and NZ wasn't robbed? > > I dont think ive said otherwise... > >> So why are Australians whining about it? >> http://www.smh.com.au/world-cup-2010/world-cup-news/italian-theatrics-cost-new-zealand-famous-win-over-defending-champions-italy-20100621-ypj8.html > > Because had the referee not blown for a penalty, It indeed would have been > a famous win... potentially!!! But the penalty was blown because of the foul, not the dive. That's the point.
From: The Scrutineer on 22 Jun 2010 06:32 >> I dont bash Italy, I love Italy, been there, have Italian relatives, and >> will go there again in the future, it just hurts when someone calls >> Australia as a whinging nation that I get annoyed at. > > Your own people are saying to stop whining, including Frank Lowy, the > chairman of the Australian Football Federation. For the sole reason we have a bid in for staging 2022 >> We play sport hard but fair, and the lowest an opponent can get to is >> *taking a dive*, which is a non issue in every sport in Australia except >> when we play football against someone who uses it to our disadvantage, >> its >> taken a very long time for Football to get to where it is today, and it >> also hurts, when you hear the uneducated soccer viewer in Australia say, >> *oh its just a game where people just get knocked over by thin air*, > > The point is, even without the dive, it's a foul, so nothing changes. > > The shirt pulling from the NZ player was a foul, period. In your opinion. >> and that newspaper you mention in another thread does its best to throw >> the sport into the ground. > > That paper is the major paper in Australia, it's appalling. The only appalling issue is it bashes football. >> Show some respect, or people like me will return fire with the jibe like >> I >> did. > > Australians should show some respect too, or people like me will return > fire. Show some, get some, but I have no problem if you fire back, after all, everyone's opinion is respected by me, and for the purpose being balanced i'm absolutely fine about it!!!
From: JohnK on 22 Jun 2010 06:40 "JK" wrote: > I didn't write that. It was some other JK. I apologize because I did not pay attention that a regular poster of this NG was using my same nickname and most of the time I'm simply a lurker. So I have changed it to avoid misunderstandings. Again, sorry for that.
From: Diabolik on 22 Jun 2010 07:05
"The Scrutineer" <vlade4(a)bigpond.com> wrote in message news:Ti0Un.4127$Ls1.949(a)news-server.bigpond.net.au... >>> I dont bash Italy, I love Italy, been there, have Italian relatives, and >>> will go there again in the future, it just hurts when someone calls >>> Australia as a whinging nation that I get annoyed at. >> >> Your own people are saying to stop whining, including Frank Lowy, the >> chairman of the Australian Football Federation. > > For the sole reason we have a bid in for staging 2022 Yeah right, thats' the sole reason. Not because Australians are a bunch of whiners? > >>> We play sport hard but fair, and the lowest an opponent can get to is >>> *taking a dive*, which is a non issue in every sport in Australia except >>> when we play football against someone who uses it to our disadvantage, >>> its >>> taken a very long time for Football to get to where it is today, and it >>> also hurts, when you hear the uneducated soccer viewer in Australia say, >>> *oh its just a game where people just get knocked over by thin air*, >> >> The point is, even without the dive, it's a foul, so nothing changes. >> >> The shirt pulling from the NZ player was a foul, period. > > In your opinion. So shirt pulling isn't a foul now? > >>> and that newspaper you mention in another thread does its best to throw >>> the sport into the ground. >> >> That paper is the major paper in Australia, it's appalling. > > The only appalling issue is it bashes football. It would be ok if it was just that. It also bashes other cultures, except the Australian culture of course. > >>> Show some respect, or people like me will return fire with the jibe like >>> I >>> did. >> >> Australians should show some respect too, or people like me will return >> fire. > > Show some, get some, but I have no problem if you fire back, after all, > everyone's opinion is respected by me, and for the purpose being balanced > i'm absolutely fine about it!!! Great! |