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From: Pope Pompous XVIII on 6 Aug 2010 10:15 On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 13:45:50 +0100, michael adams wrote: > Torres has been a Liverpool player for 3 years and is only repeating > committments which were made to him when he signed. He also has an > unblemished record of achievement for the club. Really? Care to point to these achievements? No? Thought not. -- + His Holiness Pope Pompous XVIII Recedite, plebes! Gero rem imperialem!
From: michael adams on 6 Aug 2010 13:05 "Pope Pompous XVIII" <popepompousxviii(a)iol.ie> wrote in message news:pan.2010.08.06.14.15.16(a)popesnews.invalid... > On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 13:45:50 +0100, michael adams wrote: > > > Torres has been a Liverpool player for 3 years and is only repeating > > committments which were made to him when he signed. He also has an > > unblemished record of achievement for the club. > > > Really? Care to point to these achievements? Liverpool only Cup and League Ian Rush Games played - 329 goals scored 139 strike rate 42% Robbie Fowler Games played - 493 goals scored 224 strike rate 45% Fernado Torres Games played - 116 goals scored 72 strike rate 62% HTH > No? Thought not. I'd leave off all the thinking, if I were you chum. It doesn't appear to be your strong suit. michael adams .... > > -- > + His Holiness Pope Pompous XVIII > > Recedite, plebes! Gero rem imperialem!
From: michael adams on 6 Aug 2010 13:10 "Pope Pompous XVIII" <popepompousxviii(a)iol.ie> wrote in message news:pan.2010.08.06.14.14.11(a)popesnews.invalid... > > Players like Torres and Stevie G, constantly moaning that other players in > the squad aren't up to *their* high standards (remember the World Cup > Stevie?), fully deserve this rap on the knuckles, and I can't tell you how > delighted I am Roy is now doing it. We've had six or seven years of bull > from these *senior* players and the fools in SOS who fall into line behind > them. Now it's time for a manager to put the blame for lacklustre > performances where it should lie: not in the boardroom, but in the > dressing room. Well done Roy. The more of this the better. Yeah just think Pope. If only Rafa had lived up to his promise and achieved fourth place instead of Spurs, Liverpool could have been playing Young Boys next week. michael adams .... > > -- > + His Holiness Pope Pompous XVIII > > Recedite, plebes! Gero rem imperialem!
From: Pope Pompous XVIII on 6 Aug 2010 13:51 On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 18:37:31 +0100, michael adams wrote: > "Pope Pompous XVIII" <popepompousxviii(a)iol.ie> wrote in message > news:pan.2010.08.06.17.16.32(a)popesnews.invalid... >> On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 18:05:01 +0100, michael adams wrote: >> >> > "Pope Pompous XVIII" <popepompousxviii(a)iol.ie> wrote in message >> > news:pan.2010.08.06.14.15.16(a)popesnews.invalid... >> >> On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 13:45:50 +0100, michael adams wrote: >> >> >> >> > Torres has been a Liverpool player for 3 years and is only >> >> > repeating committments which were made to him when he signed. He >> >> > also has an unblemished record of achievement for the club. >> >> >> >> >> >> Really? Care to point to these achievements? >> > >> > Liverpool only Cup and League >> > >> > Ian Rush >> > >> > Games played - 329 goals scored 139 strike rate 42% >> > >> > Robbie Fowler >> > >> > Games played - 493 goals scored 224 strike rate 45% >> > >> > Fernado Torres >> > >> > Games played - 116 goals scored 72 strike rate 62% >> > >> > HTH >> > >> >> No? Thought not. >> > >> > >> > I'd leave off all the thinking, if I were you chum. >> > >> > It doesn't appear to be your strong suit. >> >> Great work Sherlock - perhaps for your next trick you'd like to remind >> the readers how much Fernando Torres cost the club in comparison with >> Fowler and Rush? No? Thought not. > > As it happens the Rush figure are wrong so his final strike rate 469/229 > comes out at 48.8% not 42% as stated. > > >> The bottom line is this: Torres and Gerrard think very highly of >> themselves, so much so that nobody else at the club is fit to lace >> their boots. Yet neither of them has delivered consistently in Europe, >> the Premier League, and the World Cup. >> >> You might be happy with racking up the goals against Sunderland and >> West Ham. Me? I'd rather they actually lived up to their promise and >> delivered the big prizes. > > Players can't choose which teams they play against. A strike rate of 62% > in all games (assuming I've got that one right) can't really be argued > with. What else can he do ? What else can he do? Help Liverpool to a league title? Help Liverpool to a Champions League win? Help Liverpool to an FA Cup win? You're the one who said he has an "unblemished" record for Liverpool. Well until he brings a League or Champions League or FA Cup medal home to sit on the shelf alongside all his LFC DVDs most people will rightly think his record for Liverpool is very much a blemished one. One of the top strikers in the world, apparently, and not a single major trophy to show for it. And you tell us that's an unblemished record? Sorry pal - it's you who needs to put his thinking cap on, not I. -- + His Holiness Pope Pompous XVIII Recedite, plebes! Gero rem imperialem!
From: michael adams on 6 Aug 2010 14:28
"Pope Pompous XVIII" <popepompousxviii(a)iol.ie> wrote in message news:pan.2010.08.06.17.51.19(a)popesnews.invalid... > On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 18:37:31 +0100, michael adams wrote: > > > "Pope Pompous XVIII" <popepompousxviii(a)iol.ie> wrote in message > > news:pan.2010.08.06.17.16.32(a)popesnews.invalid... > >> On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 18:05:01 +0100, michael adams wrote: > >> > >> > "Pope Pompous XVIII" <popepompousxviii(a)iol.ie> wrote in message > >> > news:pan.2010.08.06.14.15.16(a)popesnews.invalid... > >> >> On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 13:45:50 +0100, michael adams wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > Torres has been a Liverpool player for 3 years and is only > >> >> > repeating committments which were made to him when he signed. He > >> >> > also has an unblemished record of achievement for the club. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Really? Care to point to these achievements? > >> > > >> > Liverpool only Cup and League > >> > > >> > Ian Rush > >> > > >> > Games played - 329 goals scored 139 strike rate 42% > >> > > >> > Robbie Fowler > >> > > >> > Games played - 493 goals scored 224 strike rate 45% > >> > > >> > Fernado Torres > >> > > >> > Games played - 116 goals scored 72 strike rate 62% > >> > > >> > HTH > >> > > >> >> No? Thought not. > >> > > >> > > >> > I'd leave off all the thinking, if I were you chum. > >> > > >> > It doesn't appear to be your strong suit. > >> > >> Great work Sherlock - perhaps for your next trick you'd like to remind > >> the readers how much Fernando Torres cost the club in comparison with > >> Fowler and Rush? No? Thought not. > > > > As it happens the Rush figure are wrong so his final strike rate 469/229 > > comes out at 48.8% not 42% as stated. > > > > > >> The bottom line is this: Torres and Gerrard think very highly of > >> themselves, so much so that nobody else at the club is fit to lace > >> their boots. Yet neither of them has delivered consistently in Europe, > >> the Premier League, and the World Cup. > >> > >> You might be happy with racking up the goals against Sunderland and > >> West Ham. Me? I'd rather they actually lived up to their promise and > >> delivered the big prizes. > > > > Players can't choose which teams they play against. A strike rate of 62% > > in all games (assuming I've got that one right) can't really be argued > > with. What else can he do ? > > > What else can he do? > > Help Liverpool to a league title? Help Liverpool to a Champions League > win? Help Liverpool to an FA Cup win? > > You're the one who said he has an "unblemished" record for Liverpool. Well > until he brings a League or Champions League or FA Cup medal home to sit > on the shelf alongside all his LFC DVDs most people will rightly think his > record for Liverpool is very much a blemished one. One of the top strikers > in the world, apparently, and not a single major trophy to show for it. > > And you tell us that's an unblemished record? In terms of his loyalty to the club his record more than unblemished. Its almost unique. Any other of the top strikers in the world, finding themselves in the position Torres finds himself in, where he still hasn't got a single trophy to show for his efforts would have been out of Anfield and away to sunnier climes faster than a rat up a drainpipe. Well before now, And yet all Torres gets to show for his loaylty to the club and his 62% strike rate are derision and sneers from the likes of yourself. In any case if I remember rightly Torres was reported to have made his remark about the club needing at least four more players well before Hodgson went out to visit him on holiday. It may even have been before Hodgson was appointed. Well before ! Hodgson visited him on holiday and it was all pals. and Hodgson came back and reports that Torres wants to stay - not that he'd ever said any different - and that Hodgson was looking forward to working with him. In the meantime Torres has said nothing. Nothing! Then two weeks later or whenever it is Hodgson then comes out with his whine about what Torres had said months ago! After! Its a shame Hodgson didn''t take the opportunity to have this out with the player when he visted him on holiday, rather than announce it to the press two weeks later. I was giving Hodgson the benefit of the doubt up until that point. michael adams .... > > Sorry pal - it's you who needs to put his thinking cap on, not I. > > -- > + His Holiness Pope Pompous XVIII > > Recedite, plebes! Gero rem imperialem! |