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From: comport on 22 Oct 2009 16:43
On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 12:14:11 +0100, "Lescor" <lescor(a)btinternet.com>
wrote:

>
>
>"Stephen O'Connell" <no.spam(a)fk.u.com> wrote in message
>news:hbj0hi$a1v$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>>> "Stephen O'Connell" <no.spam(a)fk.u.com> wrote in message
>>> news:hbfall$h7u$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>
>>>> "Lescor" <lescor(a)btinternet.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:_aqdnTNPGttd8UTXnZ2dnUVZ8sadnZ2d(a)bt.com...
>>>>
>>>> I am no expert either, just a fan, but I would fault Cech for the
>>>> second goal yesterday at Villa Park. He was too decisive in coming for
>>>> the ball there! But the defence in general hasn't been that great,
>>>> especially from set pieces, so I wouldn't put it all down to Petr Cech.
>>>> Hilario did have a good game against Liverpool, although he didn't have
>>>> too much to do really. I do think overall though that Cech is the
>>>> better keeper. No goal keeper is perfect. If Ancelotti can improve the
>>>> marking at the back and generally tighten the defence, Cech will be a
>>>> lot more secure and we might not let in some silly goals...
>>>
>>> I agree about that second goal. If you are going to come out then go
>>> through with it. Not sure that the first should have been in his
>>> territory either? This was really the point I was making. Fine keeper
>>> that he was, hasn't he shown weaknesses at
>>> contested crosses a bit too often recently?
>>
>> IMHO Cech hasn't been the same at coming for crosses since the head
>> injury. Maybe that is a simplistic view, but it does seem that at times
>> his thoughts are more on trying not to let anyone head butt him in the
>> temple while they are going for a ball, than just thinking about getting
>> to the ball first. Not that I'd blame him after such a horrific injury
>> mind you. But it's true that Cech hasn't been the same 'keeper that he
>> once was. - My mate [Simon] has a view on it too, he reckons that the
>> goalkeeping coach that we had under Jose Mourinho was a lot better than
>> the ones we've had since! (?)
>I think you are probably correct. I thought he was once as good as any
>keeper
>in the world, but couldn't say the same now, and the bouts of uncertainty
>seem to
>have arrived since the injury? I sometimes wonder how much confidence
>Terry
>and the other defenders have in him in certain situations? A touch of
>unease maybe?
>
>LC
He seems worse when it comes in at an angle (corners etc) I wonder if
the head protection causes some sort of blind spot from the sides and
he then misjudges the speed and angle of the ball.
From: davesaywhattt on 23 Oct 2009 07:03
On 2009-10-16 19:47:25 +1030, "Lescor" <lescor(a)btinternet.com> said:

> Would you give Cech his place back now he is fit? Hasn't his
> substitute looked more reliable
> in the few games he has had?
>
> LC

Absolutely not. Cech is worldclass and just needs time to settle back
into the team, he showed that against Athletico.

From: Graf Finklestein on 25 Oct 2009 06:54
On 17 Oct, 07:05, "Lescor" <les...(a)btinternet.com> wrote:
> "Stephen O'Connell" <no.s...(a)fk.u.com> wrote in message
>
> news:hbb12f$38l$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Kevin Wells" <kevinwe...(a)talktalk.net> wrote in message
> >news:9f4a56ab50.Kevin(a)talktalk.net...
> >> In message <hbabrk$ki...(a)news.eternal-september.org>
> >> "Stephen O'Connell" <no.s...(a)fk.u.com> wrote:
>
> >>>"Stephen O'Connell" <no.s...(a)fk.u.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:hbabi2$i26$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>
> >>>> "Lescor" <les...(a)btinternet.com> wrote in message
> >>>>news:fqWdnV3ekb2pp0XXnZ2dnUVZ8gmdnZ2d(a)bt.com...
> >>>>> Would you give Cech his place back now he is fit?
>
> >>>> Er... he wasn't injured, he was suspended... and still is in the
> >>>> Premier
> >>>> League.
>
> >>>Actually just watching Chelsea TV, and found out that he isn't! As it was
> >>>only a one match ban and not three as I thought. Ooops!
>
> >> I thought a straight red card was an automatic three game ban.
>
> > I had to look it up earlier, as I remember the TV pundits at the time
> > saying that Cech would serve a three match ban. But then today I saw on
> > Chelsea TV that Petr Cech was back for the Villa game. It seems in the
> > Premier League a straight red card is an automatic one game ban. Although
> > a straight red card for violent conduct is a three match ban. The referee
> > obviously deemed that Cech's challenge, while a foul, was not violent
> > conduct. Which is fair enough.
>
> I knew he was back for Villa. God knows why I said "fit" instead of
> "available".
>
> But the question remains. I am no expert on Chelsea's keepers, but Cech
> has looked
> a bit indecisive at times recently and his replacement very assured.
>
> LC

Let's be honest, Cech has been a liability over the past couple of
seasons. I have no idea what the hell has gone wrong with the guy
(and no, I don't believe it is simply down to the head injury). He
comes out when he should stay, stays when he should come out, flaps at
most crosses, his concentration seems shot, he doesn't organise his
defence like he used to, his decision-making is flawed to say the
least... These are all things that he used to do well, so why have
they all gone so wrong so suddenly?

Personally (and this no doubt shows why Carlo is one of the finest man-
managers in the world, and I ain't), I would have kept Hilario in the
team.
From: Graf Finklestein on 25 Oct 2009 06:56
On 25 Oct, 10:54, Graf Finklestein <udo_bins...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 17 Oct, 07:05, "Lescor" <les...(a)btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "Stephen O'Connell" <no.s...(a)fk.u.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:hbb12f$38l$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>
> > > "Kevin Wells" <kevinwe...(a)talktalk.net> wrote in message
> > >news:9f4a56ab50.Kevin(a)talktalk.net...
> > >> In message <hbabrk$ki...(a)news.eternal-september.org>
> > >> "Stephen O'Connell" <no.s...(a)fk.u.com> wrote:
>
> > >>>"Stephen O'Connell" <no.s...(a)fk.u.com> wrote in message
> > >>>news:hbabi2$i26$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>
> > >>>> "Lescor" <les...(a)btinternet.com> wrote in message
> > >>>>news:fqWdnV3ekb2pp0XXnZ2dnUVZ8gmdnZ2d(a)bt.com...
> > >>>>> Would you give Cech his place back now he is fit?
>
> > >>>> Er... he wasn't injured, he was suspended... and still is in the
> > >>>> Premier
> > >>>> League.
>
> > >>>Actually just watching Chelsea TV, and found out that he isn't! As it was
> > >>>only a one match ban and not three as I thought. Ooops!
>
> > >> I thought a straight red card was an automatic three game ban.
>
> > > I had to look it up earlier, as I remember the TV pundits at the time
> > > saying that Cech would serve a three match ban. But then today I saw on
> > > Chelsea TV that Petr Cech was back for the Villa game. It seems in the
> > > Premier League a straight red card is an automatic one game ban. Although
> > > a straight red card for violent conduct is a three match ban. The referee
> > > obviously deemed that Cech's challenge, while a foul, was not violent
> > > conduct. Which is fair enough.
>
> > I knew he was back for Villa. God knows why I said "fit" instead of
> > "available".
>
> > But the question remains. I am no expert on Chelsea's keepers, but Cech
> > has looked
> > a bit indecisive at times recently and his replacement very assured.
>
> > LC
>
> Let's be honest, Cech has been a liability over the past couple of
> seasons. I have no idea what the hell has gone wrong with the guy
> (and no, I don't believe it is simply down to the head injury). He
> comes out when he should stay, stays when he should come out, flaps at
> most crosses, his concentration seems shot, he doesn't organise his
> defence like he used to, his decision-making is flawed to say the
> least... These are all things that he used to do well, so why have
> they all gone so wrong so suddenly?
>
> Personally (and this no doubt shows why Carlo is one of the finest man-
> managers in the world, and I ain't), I would have kept Hilario in the
> team.

And having seen the Villa goals, seems Hilario should have remained in
the team after all...?
From: Graf Finklestein on 25 Oct 2009 07:00
On 20 Oct, 00:33, "Stephen O'Connell" <no.s...(a)fk.u.com> wrote:
> > "Stephen O'Connell" <no.s...(a)fk.u.com> wrote in message
> >news:hbfall$h7u$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>
> >> "Lescor" <les...(a)btinternet.com> wrote in message
> >>news:_aqdnTNPGttd8UTXnZ2dnUVZ8sadnZ2d(a)bt.com...
>
> >> I am no expert either, just a fan, but I would fault Cech for the
> >> second goal yesterday at Villa Park. He was too decisive in coming for
> >> the ball there! But the defence in general hasn't been that great,
> >> especially from set pieces, so I wouldn't put it all down to Petr Cech.
> >> Hilario did have a good game against Liverpool, although he didn't have
> >> too much to do really. I do think overall though that Cech is the
> >> better keeper. No goal keeper is perfect. If Ancelotti can improve the
> >> marking at the back and generally tighten the defence, Cech will be a
> >> lot more secure and we might not let in some silly goals...
>
> > I agree about that second goal. If you are going to come out then go
> > through with it. Not sure that the first should have been in his
> > territory either? This was really the point I was making. Fine keeper
> > that he was, hasn't he shown weaknesses at
> > contested crosses a bit too often recently?
>
> IMHO Cech hasn't been the same at coming for crosses since the head
> injury. Maybe that is a simplistic view, but it does seem that at times
> his thoughts are more on trying not to let anyone head butt him in the
> temple while they are going for a ball, than just thinking about getting
> to the ball first. Not that I'd blame him after such a horrific injury
> mind you. But it's true that Cech hasn't been the same 'keeper that he
> once was. - My mate [Simon] has a view on it too, he reckons that the
> goalkeeping coach that we had under Jose Mourinho was a lot better than
> the ones we've had since! (?)

He's certainly gone from being one of the to best keepers on the
planet without question, to being pretty mediocre. There's also no
doubt he has gone downhill rapidly since Jose left - but then, the
entire defence has IMO.
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