From: Mart van de Wege on
italiancar(a)gmail.com (SteveH) writes:

> Mart van de Wege <mvdwege(a)mail.com> wrote:
>
>> > Our recent trophy hauls would suggest otherwise
>>
>> I have no dog in this fight, so don't take this the wrong way: your
>> statement does *not* disprove his. The trophies are not necessarily
>> correlated with academy success. In fact, a case could be made that
>> short term success can be gained by investing in buying players.
>
> Perhaps he was talking about the Academy trophies:
>
> Premier Reserve League North Champions 2010
> Premier Reserve League National Playoff Winners 2010
> Premier Academy League Winners 2010
> Manchester Senior Cup Winners 2009
> Lancashire Senior Cup Winners 2009
>
> That covers most of what the academy players can win.

Thanks. That's the kind of news that seldom makes it across the North
Sea, so I'm glad of the knowledge.

Regards,

Mart

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"We will need a longer wall when the revolution comes."
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From: Google Beta User on
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/european/7936347/Barcelona-agree-deal-for-Mesut-Ozil-with-Manchester-United-and-Chelsea-too-slow.html

Telegraph says Barcelona and they say 8.3m.
From: Lord of War on
On Aug 8, 7:31 pm, Google Beta User <wanyik...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> probably 13-18m pound range.
>
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/aug/08/manchester-united-mesu...

Not gonna happen MAN U has no money.
From: RED DEVIL on
On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 08:30:49 +0200, Mart van de Wege
<mvdwege(a)mail.com> wrote:

>RED DEVIL <manutd11XX(a)bellsouth.net> writes:
>
>> On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 10:01:53 +1000, "The Scrutineer"
>> <vlade4(a)bigpond.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Lawrence13" <lawrence13(a)sky.com> wrote in message
>>>news:0be492b3-4200-4060-8278-1b8b49938dcd(a)w30g2000yqw.googlegroups.com...
>>>> On Aug 9, 12:31 am, Google Beta User <wanyik...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> probably 13-18m pound range.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/aug/08/manchester-united-mesu...
>>>>
>>>> Come on, why would according to Red Devil, Fergie spend all that money
>>>> and a poor mans Darren Fletcher.
>>>
>>>The academy isn't producing what it once did!!!
>>
>> Our recent trophy hauls would suggest otherwise
>
>I have no dog in this fight, so don't take this the wrong way: your
>statement does *not* disprove his. The trophies are not necessarily
>correlated with academy success. In fact, a case could be made that
>short term success can be gained by investing in buying players.
>
>Mart

It's a fact that most United starting lineups contain at least 50% of
players that have graduated through the youth system. Compare that
with any other successful English teams
RED DEVIL
From: Mart van de Wege on
RED DEVIL <manutd11XX(a)bellsouth.net> writes:

> On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 08:30:49 +0200, Mart van de Wege
> <mvdwege(a)mail.com> wrote:
>
>>RED DEVIL <manutd11XX(a)bellsouth.net> writes:
>>
>>> On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 10:01:53 +1000, "The Scrutineer"
>>> <vlade4(a)bigpond.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Lawrence13" <lawrence13(a)sky.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:0be492b3-4200-4060-8278-1b8b49938dcd(a)w30g2000yqw.googlegroups.com...
>>>>> On Aug 9, 12:31 am, Google Beta User <wanyik...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> probably 13-18m pound range.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/aug/08/manchester-united-mesu...
>>>>>
>>>>> Come on, why would according to Red Devil, Fergie spend all that money
>>>>> and a poor mans Darren Fletcher.
>>>>
>>>>The academy isn't producing what it once did!!!
>>>
>>> Our recent trophy hauls would suggest otherwise
>>
>>I have no dog in this fight, so don't take this the wrong way: your
>>statement does *not* disprove his. The trophies are not necessarily
>>correlated with academy success. In fact, a case could be made that
>>short term success can be gained by investing in buying players.
>>
>>Mart
>
> It's a fact that most United starting lineups contain at least 50% of
> players that have graduated through the youth system. Compare that
> with any other successful English teams

Oh sure. And I'm quite willing to believe that their youth scheme is
part of their success.

However, logically your statement is not a refutation of the
original. It is quite possible that the recent trophy hauls are due to
smart buying of players. Without an exhaustive analysis of each player's
part in the successes, you can't make definitive statements.

Mart

--
"We will need a longer wall when the revolution comes."
--- AJS, quoting an uncertain source.