From: A Sellers on 15 Jul 2010 14:55 "Google Beta User" <wanyikuli(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:bcc84300-fdc3-4a53-95b0-bca5de081184(a)z8g2000yqz.googlegroups.com... > The media is writing about Torres as if he's basically a Chelsea > player. It's the oddest thing, and seems like they're cheerleading > for it. It's probably safe to say that Torres will still be at Liverpool until the start of the January transfer window at least. (Jan Ist). While the summer transfer window closes on Aug 31st. So that as well as getting himself fit, Torres has only the 3 matches, home to Arsenal, away to Man City, and home to West Brom to recover all his match form and sharpness. In addition its doubtful IMO whether he would welcome an early move until his form returns - if at all. As that would only be putting himself under even more pressure from a new set of fans, and a board wanting a quick return on their money. While he stays at Liverpool there'll be none of that additional pressure and he's still drawing wages every week. By the time January comes around things could be very different. Hodgson could have worked some magic, while the rest of them could have come unstuck or started to unravel in various ways. michael adams .... > Even Masch, who UNAPOLOGETICALLY WANTS to go is not being > written about as if he's already an Interista. > > If Torres returns from this injury at less than 100% and reinjures it > soon, I fear that he'll be done. > > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1294619/Fernando-Torres-faces-month-thigh-injury-Liverpool-stars-blow-keeps-Chelsea-bay.html
From: CJM on 16 Jul 2010 05:31 "lescor" <lescorbett(a)btinternet.com> wrote in message news:obidnV6VXLCIdaPRnZ2dnUVZ8mudnZ2d(a)bt.com... > > Much would depend on how much cash the new manager would > get if Torres was sold for big money. Far better to keep him if the > cash was mainly used for debts, but tempting if a large lump of it was > going to the managers buying fund. He is pretty good at buying > wisely and an extra 10 or 15m would help him towards one of > his main priorities, which is strengthening the bench with some > decent options. > If we were to sell him, we would need as an absolute minimum, enough money for a top-flight striker - which in todays crazy world would be �30m-�35m (assuming there is a top striker available and willing to come). We'd also need to keep half of anything above that to re-invest elsewhere in the team. So from a �50m sale, I'd like to see �40m minimum going back in the team. Any less than that and we would be letting the Yanks get away with it. We'd be treading water (at best) and not improving, when we so clearly need to do so. However, latest rumour has it that the chavs are willing to pay the �50m, but only �30m up front with the remaining being dependent on appearances. That quite a gamble with Torres' apparent vulnerabilities. If he must go, I'd also prefer to see him abroad. Nothing more painful than seeing him knock the goals in for our rivals week-in week-out... You just know he would bang a few past us when we met again... they always do. However, in my fantasy world, we'll keep him, he'll be back fresh for the new season and on the back of his 30+ goals for us, we will be back in the ECL next year. Our revival will prompt a new buyer and new players... Well, we can dream...
From: michael adams on 16 Jul 2010 08:21 "CJM" <cjmuk2008(a)gmail.removethis.com> wrote in message news:8aan6kF9jeU1(a)mid.individual.net... > > > "lescor" <lescorbett(a)btinternet.com> wrote in message > news:obidnV6VXLCIdaPRnZ2dnUVZ8mudnZ2d(a)bt.com... > > > > > Much would depend on how much cash the new manager would > > get if Torres was sold for big money. Far better to keep him if the > > cash was mainly used for debts, but tempting if a large lump of it was > > going to the managers buying fund. He is pretty good at buying > > wisely and an extra 10 or 15m would help him towards one of > > his main priorities, which is strengthening the bench with some > > decent options. > > > > If we were to sell him, we would need as an absolute minimum, enough money > for a top-flight striker - which in todays crazy world would be �30m-�35m > (assuming there is a top striker available and willing to come). > > We'd also need to keep half of anything above that to re-invest elsewhere in > the team. So from a �50m sale, I'd like to see �40m minimum going back in > the team. Any less than that and we would be letting the Yanks get away with > it. We'd be treading water (at best) and not improving, when we so clearly > need to do so. > > However, latest rumour has it that the chavs are willing to pay the �50m, > but only �30m up front with the remaining being dependent on appearances. > That quite a gamble with Torres' apparent vulnerabilities. <quote> With the likes of Didier Drogba and Nicolas Anelka already shouldering the goal-scoring burden, manager Carlo Ancelotti is ready to assure Torres he can count on maximum recovery time in the event of any injury. </quote> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1294825/Chelsea-ready-step-hunt-crocked-Liverpool-striker-Fernando-Torres.html?ito=feeds-newsxml Yeah right. Torres is just jumping at the chance of having to fight for a first team place alongside the two biggest, big girls blouses, in the Premiership. Ancelotti has already achieved a minor miracle stopping those two getting their handbags out every week as it is. michael adams > > If he must go, I'd also prefer to see him abroad. Nothing more painful than > seeing him knock the goals in for our rivals week-in week-out... You just > know he would bang a few past us when we met again... they always do. > > However, in my fantasy world, we'll keep him, he'll be back fresh for the > new season and on the back of his 30+ goals for us, we will be back in the > ECL next year. Our revival will prompt a new buyer and new players... Well, > we can dream... >
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