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From: The Scrutineer on 10 Aug 2010 22:05


"Mike Hall" <tarrow(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:164823fa-9b5f-4615-90f8-2f71e67548b4(a)k10g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
> On 10 Aug, 21:09, RED DEVIL <manutd1...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 11:35:07 +0000 (UTC), b...(a)ipp-garching.mpg.de
>>
>> (Bruce D. Scott) wrote:
>> >The Scrutineer (vla...(a)bigpond.com) wrote:
>>
>> >: Perhaps, but United are not exactly short on potential replacements,
>> >and who
>> >: knows, it might not be needed for a very long time!!! Maybe the
>> >successor to
>> >: Sir Alex is currently playing?
>>
>> >They may need a stop-gap to wait for Mourinho if SAF wants to step down.
>>
>> >RD, what would you think of Roy Keane as an eventual manager for Man U?
>>
>> I don't think he has the experience required for the job nor the
>> temperment, he hasn't exactly set the world alight with his management
>> career so far. Managing Manchester United is a huge undertaking and
>> I'm not just talking about the playing side of the job. Mourinho is
>> more in line as being a viable candidate. That said, I really think
>> it's going to be quite some time (barring illness) before Sir Alex
>> steps down. If it did come down to an ex player getting the position,
>> then I'd look no further than Solksjaer who is presently at Old
>> Trafford learning management under the great man.
>
> A young SAF did not have the credentials to be an old SAF by this
> argument...

Fair point you make, but Mart is nearing 60 himself, not exactly a young up
and coming coach!!!

From: RED DEVIL on 11 Aug 2010 01:59
On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 12:05:27 +1000, "The Scrutineer"
<vlade4(a)bigpond.com> wrote:

>
>
>"Mike Hall" <tarrow(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:164823fa-9b5f-4615-90f8-2f71e67548b4(a)k10g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
>> On 10 Aug, 21:09, RED DEVIL <manutd1...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 11:35:07 +0000 (UTC), b...(a)ipp-garching.mpg.de
>>>
>>> (Bruce D. Scott) wrote:
>>> >The Scrutineer (vla...(a)bigpond.com) wrote:
>>>
>>> >: Perhaps, but United are not exactly short on potential replacements,
>>> >and who
>>> >: knows, it might not be needed for a very long time!!! Maybe the
>>> >successor to
>>> >: Sir Alex is currently playing?
>>>
>>> >They may need a stop-gap to wait for Mourinho if SAF wants to step down.
>>>
>>> >RD, what would you think of Roy Keane as an eventual manager for Man U?
>>>
>>> I don't think he has the experience required for the job nor the
>>> temperment, he hasn't exactly set the world alight with his management
>>> career so far. Managing Manchester United is a huge undertaking and
>>> I'm not just talking about the playing side of the job. Mourinho is
>>> more in line as being a viable candidate. That said, I really think
>>> it's going to be quite some time (barring illness) before Sir Alex
>>> steps down. If it did come down to an ex player getting the position,
>>> then I'd look no further than Solksjaer who is presently at Old
>>> Trafford learning management under the great man.
>>
>> A young SAF did not have the credentials to be an old SAF by this
>> argument...
>
>Fair point you make, but Mart is nearing 60 himself, not exactly a young up
>and coming coach!!!

A "Young SAF" had already won one European Trophy and had his team
playing in another European final when we signed him. There's also the
little matter of taking a club with no money and having them rule the
"Old Firm" . There's no comparison in the credentials that SAF had and
MON now, he simply isn't in the same class .

Sir Alex's record in Scotland is :

Scottish Premier League: 1985, 1984, 1980; Scottish First Division:
1977; Scottish FA Cup: 1986, 1984, 1983, 1982; Scottish League Cup:
1986; UEFA Cup Winners' Cup: 1983;

Compare that with MON's record

RED DEVIL
From: RED DEVIL on 11 Aug 2010 02:05
On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 18:20:45 -0700 (PDT), Mike Hall <tarrow(a)yahoo.com>
wrote:

>On 10 Aug, 21:09, RED DEVIL <manutd1...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 11:35:07 +0000 (UTC), b...(a)ipp-garching.mpg.de
>>
>> (Bruce D. Scott) wrote:
>> >The Scrutineer (vla...(a)bigpond.com) wrote:
>>
>> >: Perhaps, but United are not exactly short on potential replacements, and who
>> >: knows, it might not be needed for a very long time!!! Maybe the successor to
>> >: Sir Alex is currently playing?
>>
>> >They may need a stop-gap to wait for Mourinho if SAF wants to step down.
>>
>> >RD, what would you think of Roy Keane as an eventual manager for Man U?
>>
>> I don't think he has the experience required for the job nor the
>> temperment, he hasn't exactly set the world alight with his management
>> career so far. Managing Manchester United is a huge undertaking and
>> I'm not just talking about the playing side of the job. Mourinho is
>> more in line as being a viable candidate. That said, I really think
>> it's going to be quite some time (barring illness) before Sir Alex
>> steps down. If it did come down to an ex player getting the position,
>> then I'd look no further than Solksjaer who is presently at Old
>> Trafford learning management under the great man.
>
>A young SAF did not have the credentials to be an old SAF by this
>argument...
>
>
>Mike Hall

He had far better credentials when he joined United than MON has even
now, and he got them at an unfashionable Scottish Club that was
practically bankrupt when he joined them.
RED DEVIL
From: Google Beta User on 11 Aug 2010 09:49
I wonder if it was money, the reasons are unconfirmed.

Interesting to see which managers moan about money (Mourinho, and yes
Benitez) and those that get on with it (SAF, Wenger, Moyes).
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