From: Mozzer on
People in Liverpool identify with a political party like they do with a
particular faith.

They vote Labour because that is what they have always done. It's what
their parents and granparents always did, and political affiliation has
been handed down.

Politics or policy is irrelevant, 70% of Liverpool Labour Party voters
could not explain the difference between Labour and Tory policies if
their life depended on it, just like they could not explain the
difference between catholic or protestant religions despite claiming
allegiance to one of them.

I asked loads of my labour voting friends what policies they particulary
agreed with and got the same answer back:

"errr. dunno,I just vote for them because I always have like"

Sad, really really sad.


From: Mentalguy2k8 on

"Mozzer" <mozzer.mozzer(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> People in Liverpool identify with a political party like they do with a
> particular faith.
>
> They vote Labour because that is what they have always done. It's what
> their parents and granparents always did, and political affiliation has
> been handed down.
>
> Politics or policy is irrelevant, 70% of Liverpool Labour Party voters
> could not explain the difference between Labour and Tory policies if their
> life depended on it, just like they could not explain the difference
> between catholic or protestant religions despite claiming allegiance to
> one of them.

Agreed.

And it's amazing how many lies both types of people tell to either keep you
in their circle, or to persuade neutrals not to look into alternatives.

From: Red Rackham on

"Mozzer" <mozzer.mozzer(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> People in Liverpool identify with a political party like they do with a
> particular faith.
>
> They vote Labour because that is what they have always done. It's what
> their parents and granparents always did, and political affiliation has
> been handed down.
>
> Politics or policy is irrelevant, 70% of Liverpool Labour Party voters
> could not explain the difference between Labour and Tory policies if their
> life depended on it, just like they could not explain the difference
> between catholic or protestant religions despite claiming allegiance to
> one of them.
>
> I asked loads of my labour voting friends what policies they particulary
> agreed with and got the same answer back:
>
> "errr. dunno,I just vote for them because I always have like"
>
> Sad, really really sad.


That's funny. I did the same with some conservatives. Not one could name a
policy let alone say they supported it. It was mostly, 'anyone but Brown'.


From: Mentalguy2k8 on

"Red Rackham" <ONeil37(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Mozzer" <mozzer.mozzer(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:hs3rjr$2ek$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>> People in Liverpool identify with a political party like they do with a
>> particular faith.
>>
>> They vote Labour because that is what they have always done. It's what
>> their parents and granparents always did, and political affiliation has
>> been handed down.
>>
>> Politics or policy is irrelevant, 70% of Liverpool Labour Party voters
>> could not explain the difference between Labour and Tory policies if
>> their life depended on it, just like they could not explain the
>> difference between catholic or protestant religions despite claiming
>> allegiance to one of them.
>>
>> I asked loads of my labour voting friends what policies they particulary
>> agreed with and got the same answer back:
>>
>> "errr. dunno,I just vote for them because I always have like"
>>
>> Sad, really really sad.
>
>
> That's funny. I did the same with some conservatives. Not one could name a
> policy let alone say they supported it. It was mostly, 'anyone but Brown'.

I had the same conversation with a Labour supporter in this group a few days
ago. He came out with some outrageous lies about what would happen to the
country under Cameron, but couldn't support any of it with fact.

From: Red Rackham on

"Mentalguy2k8" <Mentalguy2k8(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Red Rackham" <ONeil37(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:22fFn.12988$IA1.5934(a)newsfe06.ams2...
>>
>> "Mozzer" <mozzer.mozzer(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:hs3rjr$2ek$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>>> People in Liverpool identify with a political party like they do with a
>>> particular faith.
>>>
>>> They vote Labour because that is what they have always done. It's what
>>> their parents and granparents always did, and political affiliation has
>>> been handed down.
>>>
>>> Politics or policy is irrelevant, 70% of Liverpool Labour Party voters
>>> could not explain the difference between Labour and Tory policies if
>>> their life depended on it, just like they could not explain the
>>> difference between catholic or protestant religions despite claiming
>>> allegiance to one of them.
>>>
>>> I asked loads of my labour voting friends what policies they particulary
>>> agreed with and got the same answer back:
>>>
>>> "errr. dunno,I just vote for them because I always have like"
>>>
>>> Sad, really really sad.
>>
>>
>> That's funny. I did the same with some conservatives. Not one could name
>> a policy let alone say they supported it. It was mostly, 'anyone but
>> Brown'.
>
> I had the same conversation with a Labour supporter in this group a few
> days ago. He came out with some outrageous lies about what would happen to
> the country under Cameron, but couldn't support any of it with fact.


Could you tell me what the weather will be like next monday and can you
support it with fact?

Can you tell me any of the next world cup scores and support them with fact?

Not really. But you can get fairly close to future events by studying those
of the past.

I think the very nice chap you were conversing with tried to explain that
you cannot produce facts concering future events. You can only be guided by
the past.

HTH


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