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From: Baldoni on 19 Jun 2010 04:51 RED DEVIL pretended : > On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 02:11:56 +0100, Legend-11 <Legend-11(a)spamless.com> > wrote: > >> On 18/06/2010 22:39, NealR2000 wrote: >>> We really aren't that good as a national team. We base our high >>> expectations on them being the "star players" of probably the best >>> league system in the world. Perhaps their domestic star status has >>> more to do with them being serviced by very good, and almost all >>> foreign, team-mates? >> >> I don't believe that. I truly believe if we could get them to recreate >> club form, they'd be in a group of five or six in with a chance of world >> cup glory. >> >> They play as though they're paralysed with fear....they are NOT the same >> players we all see week in week out. We've seen them play with fear at >> Wembley, and choke, then go abroad and tear someone a new arsehole. They >> need a bloody shrink as much as they do a decent coach. A decent skipper >> wouldn't go amiss either. Gerrard never re-created the skippering >> abilities he has shown for Liverpool. >> >> Listening to their own fans booing will not have helped with their >> fragile state of mind....but you can almost forgive it. There was a >> bloke who re-mortgaged his house for his World Cup funds on telly the >> other day. In the end, though, booing is fundamentally wrong....and it >> helps no one. > > The problem with Capello is he doesn't take advantage of a players > strength (or weakness). He was supposed to come in and be the iron man > and no one was sacred. Yet Frank Lampard continues to blow chunks > every time he puts on the England shirt. I'd never say that Carrick > was a better overal player than Lampard but FFS England has had about > enough of the Lampard experiment and it's time to try the other bloke, > he couldn't have done any worse could he? > Joe Cole is another that sits rotting on the bench, he's a flair > player that could just add that spark to this dismal looking England > team. Shake it up Capello, dump the holy cows and play Gerrard in the > position he prefers and let him support Rooney. Gerrard has been in > fair form and if he's given his head he'll do some damage. > > RED DEVIL Yes correct Drivel for once I have to agree with you on something. -- Count Baldoni
From: Lawrence Jenkins on 19 Jun 2010 06:14 "johnty" <johnty1(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:488b5579-7cc9-45e5-aba2-e7836c441160(a)j4g2000yqh.googlegroups.com... > On 19 June, 02:11, Legend-11 <Legend...(a)spamless.com> wrote: > >> >> Listening to their own fans booing will not have helped with their >> fragile state of mind....but you can almost forgive it. There was a >> bloke who re-mortgaged his house for his World Cup funds on telly the >> other day. In the end, though, booing is fundamentally wrong....and it >> helps no one. >> > > Fragile state of mind? They ought to try living in the real world for > a while, struggling to pay bills and watching their faithful wags > disappear over the horizon. > > That England performance was the worst I've seen in over 40 years, and > considering the amount of money it cost those fans to be there, the > booing was thoroughly deserved. I agree with that Johnty I didn't like the attitude expressed that the fans had no right to feel pissed off. When you add into the mix just how well paid these players are and paid to be in SA to boot , then derogotry remarks about the fans who have to pay through the fecking nose every season to see their overpaid stars and then pay some more to support these twats when they play for England is out of order. I remember seeing somewhere that Lampard for example has so much money he collects rolex watches.FFS they are so thick and so over priced.
From: Mentalguy2k8 on 19 Jun 2010 09:36 "Lawrence Jenkins" <lawrence13(a)sky.com> wrote in message news:4c1c9887$0$2560$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > > "johnty" <johnty1(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:488b5579-7cc9-45e5-aba2-e7836c441160(a)j4g2000yqh.googlegroups.com... >> On 19 June, 02:11, Legend-11 <Legend...(a)spamless.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> Listening to their own fans booing will not have helped with their >>> fragile state of mind....but you can almost forgive it. There was a >>> bloke who re-mortgaged his house for his World Cup funds on telly the >>> other day. In the end, though, booing is fundamentally wrong....and it >>> helps no one. >>> >> >> Fragile state of mind? They ought to try living in the real world for >> a while, struggling to pay bills and watching their faithful wags >> disappear over the horizon. >> >> That England performance was the worst I've seen in over 40 years, and >> considering the amount of money it cost those fans to be there, the >> booing was thoroughly deserved. > > I agree with that Johnty I didn't like the attitude expressed that the > fans had no right to feel pissed off. When you add into the mix just how > well paid these players are and paid to be in SA to boot , then derogotry > remarks about the fans who have to pay through the fecking nose every > season to see their overpaid stars and then pay some more to support these > twats when they play for England is out of order. To be fair, it was the only bit of passion Rooney showed all night.... Probably would have been better if he'd kept his mouth shut and said later that although he didn't like it, he understood *why* the fans were booing. There's some problem(s) that we're not being told about, maybe injuries or illness or friction. We'll probably get told about it months after the WC is over.
From: Lawrence Jenkins on 19 Jun 2010 10:45 "Mentalguy2k8" <Mentalguy2k8(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:dJ3Tn.76326$s16.10463(a)hurricane... > > "Lawrence Jenkins" <lawrence13(a)sky.com> wrote in message > news:4c1c9887$0$2560$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... >> >> "johnty" <johnty1(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:488b5579-7cc9-45e5-aba2-e7836c441160(a)j4g2000yqh.googlegroups.com... >>> On 19 June, 02:11, Legend-11 <Legend...(a)spamless.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Listening to their own fans booing will not have helped with their >>>> fragile state of mind....but you can almost forgive it. There was a >>>> bloke who re-mortgaged his house for his World Cup funds on telly the >>>> other day. In the end, though, booing is fundamentally wrong....and it >>>> helps no one. >>>> >>> >>> Fragile state of mind? They ought to try living in the real world for >>> a while, struggling to pay bills and watching their faithful wags >>> disappear over the horizon. >>> >>> That England performance was the worst I've seen in over 40 years, and >>> considering the amount of money it cost those fans to be there, the >>> booing was thoroughly deserved. >> >> I agree with that Johnty I didn't like the attitude expressed that the >> fans had no right to feel pissed off. When you add into the mix just how >> well paid these players are and paid to be in SA to boot , then derogotry >> remarks about the fans who have to pay through the fecking nose every >> season to see their overpaid stars and then pay some more to support >> these twats when they play for England is out of order. > > To be fair, it was the only bit of passion Rooney showed all night.... > Probably would have been better if he'd kept his mouth shut and said later > that although he didn't like it, he understood *why* the fans were booing. > > There's some problem(s) that we're not being told about, maybe injuries or > illness or friction. We'll probably get told about it months after the WC > is over. I've calmed down a bit now but the players really do need to realise how lucky they are
From: Baldoni on 19 Jun 2010 10:48
Lawrence Jenkins explained : > "Mentalguy2k8" <Mentalguy2k8(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > news:dJ3Tn.76326$s16.10463(a)hurricane... >> >> "Lawrence Jenkins" <lawrence13(a)sky.com> wrote in message >> news:4c1c9887$0$2560$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... >>> >>> "johnty" <johnty1(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:488b5579-7cc9-45e5-aba2-e7836c441160(a)j4g2000yqh.googlegroups.com... >>>> On 19 June, 02:11, Legend-11 <Legend...(a)spamless.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Listening to their own fans booing will not have helped with their >>>>> fragile state of mind....but you can almost forgive it. There was a >>>>> bloke who re-mortgaged his house for his World Cup funds on telly the >>>>> other day. In the end, though, booing is fundamentally wrong....and it >>>>> helps no one. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Fragile state of mind? They ought to try living in the real world for >>>> a while, struggling to pay bills and watching their faithful wags >>>> disappear over the horizon. >>>> >>>> That England performance was the worst I've seen in over 40 years, and >>>> considering the amount of money it cost those fans to be there, the >>>> booing was thoroughly deserved. >>> >>> I agree with that Johnty I didn't like the attitude expressed that the >>> fans had no right to feel pissed off. When you add into the mix just how >>> well paid these players are and paid to be in SA to boot , then derogotry >>> remarks about the fans who have to pay through the fecking nose every >>> season to see their overpaid stars and then pay some more to support these >>> twats when they play for England is out of order. >> >> To be fair, it was the only bit of passion Rooney showed all night.... >> Probably would have been better if he'd kept his mouth shut and said later >> that although he didn't like it, he understood *why* the fans were booing. >> >> There's some problem(s) that we're not being told about, maybe injuries or >> illness or friction. We'll probably get told about it months after the WC >> is over. > > I've calmed down a bit now but the players really do need to realise how > lucky they are They get paid very well for something they enjoy doing and would do for no pay. The fans have a right to be disappointed as England's effort and commitment was questionable and those fans paid a hell of a lot of money to get to this World Cup. -- Count Baldoni |