From: FF on


MH wrote:
> FF wrote:
> > Mehdi wrote:
> >> Torres dives for a penalty.
>
> May not have been a penalty (would have been harsh) but did not look
> like a dive to me- he was bundled off the ball.
>
> Not booked. Dives under no contact from
> >> Estrada, gets him a second yellow. Much bigger cheats than the Italians,
> >> always have been.
> >
> > LOL
> >
> > As you probably know, I don't usually bother to respond to you, you're
> > not much more than a troll most of the times. But now I have to say,
> > you're delusional. Go get some help man, really.
> >
> > And there definitely was contact at that second yellow. Maybe not
> > enough for a second yellow, possibly unintentional, then again it was
> > from behind and it's the player's job to be careful not to do
> > something like this. A little harsh maybe, but definitely acceptable.
>
> I don't think it was a card at all, and it was definitely not acceptable
> as this incident was entirely accidental, and , as Spain had scored on
> the play anyway, the ref had an excellent excuse for taking no action.

So you do agree there was contact. Well then, there was contact, it
was from behind, the ref is in his right to issue a card. The other
things matter less.
From: RED DEVIL on

>On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 22:55:28 +0100, Mehdi wrote...
>
>> Torres dives for a penalty. Not booked. Dives under no contact from
>> Estrada, gets him a second yellow. Much bigger cheats than the Italians,
>> always have been.
>

you must have been watching a different match
RED DEVIL
From: MH on
FF wrote:
>
> MH wrote:
>> FF wrote:
>>> Mehdi wrote:
>>>> Torres dives for a penalty.
>> May not have been a penalty (would have been harsh) but did not look
>> like a dive to me- he was bundled off the ball.
>>
>> Not booked. Dives under no contact from
>>>> Estrada, gets him a second yellow. Much bigger cheats than the Italians,
>>>> always have been.
>>> LOL
>>>
>>> As you probably know, I don't usually bother to respond to you, you're
>>> not much more than a troll most of the times. But now I have to say,
>>> you're delusional. Go get some help man, really.
>>>
>>> And there definitely was contact at that second yellow. Maybe not
>>> enough for a second yellow, possibly unintentional, then again it was
>>> from behind and it's the player's job to be careful not to do
>>> something like this. A little harsh maybe, but definitely acceptable.
>> I don't think it was a card at all, and it was definitely not acceptable
>> as this incident was entirely accidental, and , as Spain had scored on
>> the play anyway, the ref had an excellent excuse for taking no action.
>
> So you do agree there was contact. Well then, there was contact, it
> was from behind, the ref is in his right to issue a card. The other
> things matter less.

I think there was contact, though I can't be sure Torres didn't trip
over his own shoe-laces. I don't think he dived. But the existence of
contact does not make it a foul.

From: FF on
RED DEVIL wrote:
> >On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 22:55:28 +0100, Mehdi wrote...
> >
> >> Torres dives for a penalty. Not booked. Dives under no contact from
> >> Estrada, gets him a second yellow. Much bigger cheats than the Italians,
> >> always have been.
> >
>
> you must have been watching a different match
> RED DEVIL

Better yet, a different sport.
From: FF on
MH wrote:
> FF wrote:
> >
> >> I don't think it was a card at all, and it was definitely not acceptable
> >> as this incident was entirely accidental, and , as Spain had scored on
> >> the play anyway, the ref had an excellent excuse for taking no action.
> >
> > So you do agree there was contact. Well then, there was contact, it
> > was from behind, the ref is in his right to issue a card. The other
> > things matter less.
>
> I think there was contact, though I can't be sure Torres didn't trip
> over his own shoe-laces. I don't think he dived. But the existence of
> contact does not make it a foul.

It looked enough to trip him.