From: Jellore on
On Aug 4, 11:05 am, "Diabolik" <Diabo...(a)nospam.com> wrote:
> "Abubakr" <deltara...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:ff20f2d1-1504-46db-8a4e-f8f3ef177d07(a)g21g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
> On Aug 4, 1:15 am, loop <AllegraGel...(a)eXistenZ.com> wrote:
>
> > The other way is to cultivate your own youth squads, turn the gooed
> > players you have into better players and get them to play as a team.
> > Have the team managed by a coach that is passionate about the club (not
> > money) and passionate about football.
> > Can you give me an example of this method actually working in the last
> > twenty years?
>
> Verona in Serie A, more than 20 years ago.
>
> Chievo hasn't won the title, but they have done well with minimal capital..

Many of Fergie's early titles were won with largely home grown squads,
with a few "shrewd" buys chucked in.....like King Eric.
From: Abubakr on
On Aug 4, 11:05 am, "Diabolik" <Diabo...(a)nospam.com> wrote:
> "Abubakr" <deltara...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:ff20f2d1-1504-46db-8a4e-f8f3ef177d07(a)g21g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
> On Aug 4, 1:15 am, loop <AllegraGel...(a)eXistenZ.com> wrote:
>
> > The other way is to cultivate your own youth squads, turn the gooed
> > players you have into better players and get them to play as a team.
> > Have the team managed by a coach that is passionate about the club (not
> > money) and passionate about football.
> > Can you give me an example of this method actually working in the last
> > twenty years?
>
> Verona in Serie A, more than 20 years ago.
>
> Chievo hasn't won the title, but they have done well with minimal capital..

That's a thing of the past. These days clubs need to spend money, lots
of it, to stay competitive. All the top clubs pay big wages to attract
players and keep them and also spend big on the transfer market. There
are no exceptions.
From: Diabolik on

"Abubakr" <deltarasha(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:df84fd7a-fd1b-4637-a0e9-d05803bd8f60(a)u38g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 4, 11:05 am, "Diabolik" <Diabo...(a)nospam.com> wrote:
> "Abubakr" <deltara...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:ff20f2d1-1504-46db-8a4e-f8f3ef177d07(a)g21g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
> On Aug 4, 1:15 am, loop <AllegraGel...(a)eXistenZ.com> wrote:
>
> > The other way is to cultivate your own youth squads, turn the gooed
> > players you have into better players and get them to play as a team.
> > Have the team managed by a coach that is passionate about the club (not
> > money) and passionate about football.
> > Can you give me an example of this method actually working in the last
> > twenty years?
>
> Verona in Serie A, more than 20 years ago.
>
> Chievo hasn't won the title, but they have done well with minimal capital.

> That's a thing of the past.

I don't think so. Whta has changed?

> These days clubs need to spend money, lots
> of it, to stay competitive.

In Serie A Sampdoria, Genoa and Palermo were competitive.


> All the top clubs pay big wages to attract
> players and keep them and also spend big on the transfer market. There
> are no exceptions.

While it's the standard, there are exceptions.

Sampdoria made the CL this year by beating Palermo to the final 4th spot,
while Juve spent much more than them.

Isn't that an exception?


From: Abubakr on
On Aug 4, 3:33 pm, "Diabolik" <diabo...(a)nospam.com> wrote:
> "Abubakr" <deltara...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:df84fd7a-fd1b-4637-a0e9-d05803bd8f60(a)u38g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
> On Aug 4, 11:05 am, "Diabolik" <Diabo...(a)nospam.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "Abubakr" <deltara...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:ff20f2d1-1504-46db-8a4e-f8f3ef177d07(a)g21g2000prn.googlegroups.com....
> > On Aug 4, 1:15 am, loop <AllegraGel...(a)eXistenZ.com> wrote:
>
> > > The other way is to cultivate your own youth squads, turn the gooed
> > > players you have into better players and get them to play as a team.
> > > Have the team managed by a coach that is passionate about the club (not
> > > money) and passionate about football.
> > > Can you give me an example of this method actually working in the last
> > > twenty years?
>
> > Verona in Serie A, more than 20 years ago.
>
> > Chievo hasn't won the title, but they have done well with minimal capital.
> > That's a thing of the past.
>
> I don't think so. Whta has changed?

There are too many rich clubs now.

> > These days clubs need to spend money, lots
> > of it, to stay competitive.
>
> In Serie A Sampdoria, Genoa and Palermo were competitive.

They haven't won anything, nor do they look like winning anything. And
the only reason they're competitive is because the Serie A clubs are
not as big spending as those in other countries these days.

> > All the top clubs pay big wages to attract
> > players and keep them and also spend big on the transfer market. There
> > are no exceptions.
>
> While it's the standard, there are exceptions.
>
> Sampdoria made the CL this year by beating Palermo to the final 4th spot,
> while Juve spent much more than them.
>
> Isn't that an exception?

No, it's not really. Look at the title of the thread.
From: Diabolik on

"Abubakr" <deltarasha(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Aug 4, 3:33 pm, "Diabolik" <diabo...(a)nospam.com> wrote:
> "Abubakr" <deltara...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:df84fd7a-fd1b-4637-a0e9-d05803bd8f60(a)u38g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
> On Aug 4, 11:05 am, "Diabolik" <Diabo...(a)nospam.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "Abubakr" <deltara...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:ff20f2d1-1504-46db-8a4e-f8f3ef177d07(a)g21g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
> > On Aug 4, 1:15 am, loop <AllegraGel...(a)eXistenZ.com> wrote:
>
> > > The other way is to cultivate your own youth squads, turn the gooed
> > > players you have into better players and get them to play as a team.
> > > Have the team managed by a coach that is passionate about the club
> > > (not
> > > money) and passionate about football.
> > > Can you give me an example of this method actually working in the last
> > > twenty years?
>
> > Verona in Serie A, more than 20 years ago.
>
> > Chievo hasn't won the title, but they have done well with minimal
> > capital.
> > That's a thing of the past.
>
> I don't think so. Whta has changed?

> There are too many rich clubs now.

In Serie A they are the same rich clubs as always.

> > These days clubs need to spend money, lots
> > of it, to stay competitive.
>
> In Serie A Sampdoria, Genoa and Palermo were competitive.

> They haven't won anything, nor do they look like winning anything. And
> the only reason they're competitive is because the Serie A clubs are
> not as big spending as those in other countries these days.

I don't believe it. A team like Verona doesn't happen often, but it can
still happen.

> > All the top clubs pay big wages to attract
> > players and keep them and also spend big on the transfer market. There
> > are no exceptions.
>
> While it's the standard, there are exceptions.
>
> Sampdoria made the CL this year by beating Palermo to the final 4th spot,
> while Juve spent much more than them.
>
> Isn't that an exception?

> No, it's not really. Look at the title of the thread.

I think nothing has changed from the Verona days and it can still happen.

Milan, Inter and Juve are always the BIG spenders.

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