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From: Google Beta User on 3 Jul 2010 11:58 As someone that detests "attacking football" elitism, and resisted going down on Barcelona and Messi last season while everyone else was wiping off their mouths...I don't know what to make about what the Germans have done the past two games. Their speed, precision, passing, discipline, and technique has been rather alarming. Either that or they just played teams whose styles/weaknesses played into their hands. Klose-Podolski have to be one of the all-time great *international* partnerships.
From: Lawrence13 on 3 Jul 2010 12:10 On Jul 3, 4:58 pm, Google Beta User <wanyik...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > As someone that detests "attacking football" elitism, and resisted > going down on Barcelona and Messi last season while everyone else was > wiping off their mouths...I don't know what to make about what the > Germans have done the past two games. Their speed, precision, > passing, discipline, and technique has been rather alarming. > > Either that or they just played teams whose styles/weaknesses played > into their hands. > > Klose-Podolski have to be one of the all-time great *international* > partnerships. Hmmm you painted some mind warping imagery there all rather messi. However I also like Ozill the way he put that ball on a plate for that last goal. It has to be said the Germans put up a fatntastic team performance and yes Poldolski deserves a mention as well as Schweinsteiger. So the best players in the world go home with nowt. Villa could go later this evening.
From: bofh on 3 Jul 2010 17:04 On 3 July, 16:58, Google Beta User <wanyik...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > As someone that detests "attacking football" elitism, and resisted > going down on Barcelona and Messi last season while everyone else was > wiping off their mouths...I don't know what to make about what the > Germans have done the past two games. Their speed, precision, > passing, discipline, and technique has been rather alarming. > Its all grounded in national culture (the academic Geert Hostede stuff) - the machine/organised/team ethic - the names will change the results wont
From: Mentalguy2k8 on 3 Jul 2010 17:19 "bofh" <lancj2(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:fdde0434-9f91-4de4-b98a-b9d368a1fe0e(a)d37g2000yqm.googlegroups.com... On 3 July, 16:58, Google Beta User <wanyik...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > As someone that detests "attacking football" elitism, and resisted > going down on Barcelona and Messi last season while everyone else was > wiping off their mouths...I don't know what to make about what the > Germans have done the past two games. Their speed, precision, > passing, discipline, and technique has been rather alarming. > >Its all grounded in national culture (the academic Geert Hostede >stuff) - the machine/organised/team ethic - the names will change the >results wont I don't think they'll find it so easy against Spain though. Their results are flattering for sure, but being a counter-attacking side (and good defensively), once they go a goal up it becomes very easy for them to score 3 or 4. Like Brazil, plenty of goals but they can struggle to score the first one. Once they do, it's easy for them to score more as their opponents chase the game. Any team can knock in goals 3 and 4 when the game is over. Admittedly, they do look very good but I reckon Spain could hold them and then sneak a goal (but for the Love of God leave Torres out, he's even more of a passenger than Rooney). People keep talking about "peaking", maybe Germany have already, and Spain are going to do so in the next 2 games.
From: Mentalguy2k8 on 4 Jul 2010 09:00
"lescor" <lescorbett(a)btinternet.com> wrote in message news:je6dna9XE9Gvwa3RnZ2dnUVZ8tGdnZ2d(a)bt.com... > > > "Mentalguy2k8" <Mentalguy2k8(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > news:6VXXn.126961$aS3.92390(a)hurricane... >> The '66 squad was one of those impossibly rare times when everything >> about an English squad/management came together and worked. Like the 2003 >> Rugby World Cup. Given that England's style is usually miles different >> (worse?) from the rest of the world, they were (sadly) probably >> once-in-a-lifetime achievements. I wasn't around for '66 but I was lucky >> enough to see the 03 RWC and I don't think I'll see anything like it >> again in my lifetime. > > True about the skipper, but they seemed to have at least 11. They were > far > from being the most talented squad in the WC but played a simple and > effective > system which made them a true team. No pissing about with Ramsey. He left > Jimmy Greaves out.......one of the finest goal scorers in Europe at the > time.... > because he thought it was the right thing to do. Did he?? You'd think Greaves would have mentioned it since LOL. Ramsey picked the team to give us the best chance of beating our next opponents, if it meant leaving out the young prolific striker, then that's what he did. Capello take note.... > > Agree about the 03 RWC. What a bunch of forwards! Been a bit downhill > since > then but maybe just a bit better recently in the games down under? Yeah we're getting there slowly. Maybe too slowly for the WC next year, but you never know. At least with our rugby team there's a spirit, a team ethic which doesn't seem to be there with the football team. In 03, Woodward had them all prepared to perfection, everyone believed that there was no "if" about winning the World Cup, it was destined. Capello take note.... Woodward said to the RFU "back me 100% and I'll give you the World Cup" and he delivered. The only problem was, *everything* from probably 2 seasons or more before that, was geared towards WC03, so after we won it and half the team retired, we had to start all over again. We defied all the odds to reach the 07 final, though. It shows what a group of players, some fantastic and some average, can achieve if they have the right mindset and belief and team spirit. Capello take note LOL |