From: Darth Simian on
On 28 Sep, 23:12, Pope Pompous XVIII <popepompousxv...(a)iol.ie> wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 15:07:03 -0700, Darth Simian wrote:
>
> > Freemasons Arms: Birth of FA, in London The place where the Football
> > Association was first founded Location: 81-82 Long Acre, Covent Garden,
> > London, WC2E 9NG Description: It was in this pub (or it's previous
> > incarnation nearby) where the rules of football (or soccer to
> > non-europeans) were first established.
>
> was it not Freemasons Tavern?
> --
> "The Catholic Church is for saints and sinners alone. For respectable
> people, the Anglican Church will do" - Oscar Wilde

Arms? Tavern? Coven? Whatever?
Does this surprise you?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Freemasons
Jeff Winter, English football referee
--
“When a mason learns the key to the warrior on the block is the proper
application of the dynamo of living power, he has learned the mystery
of his craft. The seething energies of Lucifer are in his hands and
before he may step upward, he must prove his ability to properly apply
energy.”
From: Offramp on
Darth Simian wrote:
> On 28 Sep, 22:53, Pope Pompous XVIII <popepompousxv...(a)iol.ie> wrote:

> Some questioned Ferguson's tactics on that warm night in the towering
> Nou Camp Stadium, when United won so dramatically in injury time,
> after the Uefa officials had tied the colours of Bayern Munich to the
> trophy, but no one could question his typical assertion that it had
> been his team that had always held the moral high ground, that had
> always tried to play the game. "Bayern," snapped Ferguson, "tried to
> back their way into the winners' enclosure." It was a proper time to
> assess the meaning of Ferguson's achievement, to make some sense of
> the contradictions of this most zealous, and sometimes ungenerous, of
> competitors, who had still emerged from the entrenchments of religious
> prejudice in his native Glasgow untouched by any hint of that
> malignancy, a fact underlined by his enthusiastic courtship of the
> Catholic Cathy. Indeed, Ferguson takes great pride in the mingled
> blood of his stock,

I have not read the book. But if you are talking about religion then
blood doesn't matter. People can change religion but their blood does
not change.


and, in his remarkably candid autobiography,
> Managing My Life, pointedly refers to his father's rejection of
> Freemasonry. Ferguson, the one-eyed football bigot, has remained
> conspicuously unpolluted by the prejudice that inevitably coloured
> most days of his boyhood.
> http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/profiles/sir-alex-ferguson-manchesters-hard-man-751500.html
>
> The FA however...
>
> Freemasons Arms: Birth of FA, in London
> The place where the Football Association was first founded

Incorrect. It was founded at the Freemasons' Tavern. See below.

> Location: 81-82 Long Acre, Covent Garden, London, WC2E 9NG
> Description: It was in this pub (or it's

its

previous incarnation nearby)
> where the rules of football (or soccer to non-europeans) were first
> established.
> The Football Association (The FA) first met here in 1863 on the
> morning of 26 October 1863. The only school to be represented on this
> occasion was Charterhouse.
> The Freemason's Tavern (later to become the Freemason's Arms)

The Freemasons' Tavern on Great Queen Street was at the site where the
Connaught is now. The Freemasons' Arms on Long Acre used to have a sign
outside claiming to be the birthplace of soccer (that's what I call it)
but they have abandoned that claim now.