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From: higgs on 18 Jul 2010 07:48
On Jul 16, 9:47 pm, "Raja, The Great" <zepflo...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_team_appearances_in_the_FIFA_Wo...
>
> 27 nations have scored 25 goals in the World Cup so far. I did an
> analysis of Goals Conceder Per Match (GCPM) vs Goals Scored Per Match
> (GSPM) rounded to two decimal places and then ranked them.
>
> The 27 nations who have scored 25 goals are Brazil, Germany, Italy,
> Argentina, France, Spain, Hungary, England, Uruguay, Sweden,
> Netherlands, Serbia, Russia, Mexico, Czech Rep, Belgium, Poland,
> Austria, Portugal, Switzerland, Chile, United States, Paraguay,
> Romania, South Korea, Denmark, Scotland in that order.
>
> Top 10 all time STINGY DEFENSES in terms of Goals conceded per match
>  Team              GCPM
>  England               0.88
>  Brazil                0.91
>  Italy                 0.93
>  Portugal              0.96
>  Netherlands   1.02
>  Spain         1.05
>  Argentina             1.14
>  Germany              1.18
>  Russia         1.19
>  France                1.26
>
> Uruguay was ranked 13th most stingy (Poland and Serbia were 11th and
> 12th). Which means of the world cup winning nations, Uruguay have been
> historically the worst defense, followed by France and Germany. The
> best defense of the world cup winning nations have been England,
> Brazil and Italy. Spain and Argentina are in the middle and have
> neither crappy defense or great defense.
>
> Top 10 all time PROLIFIC OFFENSES in terms of Goals scored per match
>  Team              GCPM
>  Hungary               2.72
>  Brazil               2.16
>  Germany             2.08
>  France               1.78
>  Argentina            1.76
>  Russia        1.73
>  Portugal             1.7
>  Denmark              1.69
>  Netherlands     1.65
>  Uruguay              1.62
>
> Of the 8 world cup winning nations Brazil, Germany and France are the
> top 3. Brazil and Germany are quite close but they are outshone by
> Hungary who has played less than 1/3rd's of the matches these two have
> played. Argentina and Uruguay are in the middle. The least scoring
> world cup nations are England, Italy and Spain in that order. I
> thought Spain was good at scoring, so somewhat shocking. English seem
> to be the worst at scoring and best at not conceding.
>
> So if we are to categorize the 8 world cup winning nations,
> historically...
>
> 1. Brazil - great offense and great defense (best offense and second
> best defense - best BALANCED team ever)
> 2. Germany - great offense and mediocre defense  (second best offense
> - best OFFENSIVE team ever)
> 3. France - great offense and mediocre defense (worse than Germany in
> both cases)
> 4. Argentina - decent offense and decent defense (great or mediocre in
> neither!)
> 5. Uruguay - decent offense and mediocre defense  (worst defense of
> the eight teams)
> 6. Spain - mediocre offense and decent defense (this world cup brought
> their GSPM down, they were 1.79 before this)
> 7. Italy - mediocre offense and great defense (second best DEFENSIVE
> team ever)
> 8. England - mediocre offense and great defense (second best DEFENSIVE
> team ever)
>
> So safe to say Brazil won 5 world cups because they are good at both
> offense and defense, Italy won 4 world cups because they are good at
> defense and Germany won 3 world cups because they are good at offense?

From your narrative, you have 3 teams as the second best defensive
team ever, but no team as the best defensive team. Yet your stats list
it as England->Brazil->Italy.

Likewise, Uruguay has the worst defensive record, but are listed as
'mediocre'.

Why bother listing any sort of stat when it's quite clear that you pay
no attention to them if they don't fit in with your preconceived
ideas?
From: 3tenors-spain-world-champion on 18 Jul 2010 13:44
On Jul 18, 11:48 am, higgs <kenhig...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 16, 9:47 pm, "Raja, The Great" <zepflo...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_team_appearances_in_the_FIFA_Wo...
>
> > 27 nations have scored 25 goals in the World Cup so far. I did an
> > analysis of Goals Conceder Per Match (GCPM) vs Goals Scored Per Match
> > (GSPM) rounded to two decimal places and then ranked them.
>
> > The 27 nations who have scored 25 goals are Brazil, Germany, Italy,
> > Argentina, France, Spain, Hungary, England, Uruguay, Sweden,
> > Netherlands, Serbia, Russia, Mexico, Czech Rep, Belgium, Poland,
> > Austria, Portugal, Switzerland, Chile, United States, Paraguay,
> > Romania, South Korea, Denmark, Scotland in that order.
>
> > Top 10 all time STINGY DEFENSES in terms of Goals conceded per match
> >  Team              GCPM
> >  England               0.88
> >  Brazil                0.91
> >  Italy                 0.93
> >  Portugal              0.96
> >  Netherlands   1.02
> >  Spain         1.05
> >  Argentina             1.14
> >  Germany              1.18
> >  Russia         1.19
> >  France                1.26
>
> > Uruguay was ranked 13th most stingy (Poland and Serbia were 11th and
> > 12th). Which means of the world cup winning nations, Uruguay have been
> > historically the worst defense, followed by France and Germany. The
> > best defense of the world cup winning nations have been England,
> > Brazil and Italy. Spain and Argentina are in the middle and have
> > neither crappy defense or great defense.
>
> > Top 10 all time PROLIFIC OFFENSES in terms of Goals scored per match
> >  Team              GCPM
> >  Hungary               2.72
> >  Brazil               2.16
> >  Germany             2.08
> >  France               1.78
> >  Argentina            1.76
> >  Russia        1.73
> >  Portugal             1.7
> >  Denmark              1.69
> >  Netherlands     1.65
> >  Uruguay              1.62
>
> > Of the 8 world cup winning nations Brazil, Germany and France are the
> > top 3. Brazil and Germany are quite close but they are outshone by
> > Hungary who has played less than 1/3rd's of the matches these two have
> > played. Argentina and Uruguay are in the middle. The least scoring
> > world cup nations are England, Italy and Spain in that order. I
> > thought Spain was good at scoring, so somewhat shocking. English seem
> > to be the worst at scoring and best at not conceding.
>
> > So if we are to categorize the 8 world cup winning nations,
> > historically...
>
> > 1. Brazil - great offense and great defense (best offense and second
> > best defense - best BALANCED team ever)
> > 2. Germany - great offense and mediocre defense  (second best offense
> > - best OFFENSIVE team ever)
> > 3. France - great offense and mediocre defense (worse than Germany in
> > both cases)
> > 4. Argentina - decent offense and decent defense (great or mediocre in
> > neither!)
> > 5. Uruguay - decent offense and mediocre defense  (worst defense of
> > the eight teams)
> > 6. Spain - mediocre offense and decent defense (this world cup brought
> > their GSPM down, they were 1.79 before this)
> > 7. Italy - mediocre offense and great defense (second best DEFENSIVE
> > team ever)
> > 8. England - mediocre offense and great defense (second best DEFENSIVE
> > team ever)
>
> > So safe to say Brazil won 5 world cups because they are good at both
> > offense and defense, Italy won 4 world cups because they are good at
> > defense and Germany won 3 world cups because they are good at offense?
>
> From your narrative, you have 3 teams as the second best defensive
> team ever, but no team as the best defensive team. Yet your stats list
> it as England->Brazil->Italy.
>
> Likewise, Uruguay has the worst defensive record, but are listed as
> 'mediocre'.
>
> Why bother listing any sort of stat when it's quite clear that you pay
> no attention to them if they don't fit in with your preconceived
> ideas?

Disregard this idiot, everybody.

Higgs fool, didn't I spank you enough already? Are you asking for more
punishment, sock puppeteer? My regards to your chum 'Norm', lol.

Tenor
From: billy on 20 Jul 2010 17:10
On Jul 16, 8:02 am, "Raja, The Great" <zepflo...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Some other stats from that analysis.
>
> Top 5 offensive teams who never won the world cup.
>  Team              GSPM
>  Hungary              2.72
>  Russia        1.73
>  Portugal             1.7
>  Denmark              1.69
>  Netherlands     1.65
>
> Top 5 defensive teams who never won the world cup.
>  Portugal              0.96
>  Netherlands   1.02
>  Russia         1.19
>  Poland                1.29
>  Serbia         1.37
>
> Of the 27 teams who have scored 25 goals, the continental
> representations are (ordered in terms of total points for wins and
> draws):
>
> Europe (19 nations) - Germany, Italy, England, Spain, France,
> Netherlands, Sweden, Serbia, Russia, Poland, Hungary, Czech, Austria,
> Portugal, Belgium, Switzerland, Romania, Denmark, Scotland.
>
> South America (5 nations) - Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay, Chile,
> Paraguay
>
> North America (2 nations) - Mexico and USA
>
> Asia (1 nation) - South Korea

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