From: milivella on
milivella:

> To a
void ng-pollution, I'll update all the results of the 4 WC-related
> games here. To kick off, here is the list of the games, so if you've
> missed some you can join.
>
> All the games:
> - take less than 1 minute to play
> - are open until the kick-off of the first match

8. UPC on red cards

Thread:
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.soccer/browse_thread/thread/b45e2705c1604270/

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milivella:

> > To avoid ng-pollution, I'll update all the results of the 4 WC-related
> > games here. To kick off, here is the list of the games, so if you've
> > missed some you can join.
>
> > All the games:
> > - take less than 1 minute to play
> > - are open until the kick-off of the first match
>
> 6. *Very* unsophisticated prediction contest

In case you're wondering why I've gone from #4 to #6: when I added the
very unsophisticated game I thought #5 was Divine or Decline; but I
had not really added it to the list, since DoD started before the WC
and needs independent threads anyway. So I guess that #5 is the ghost
of DoD. Or that it was retired to honor Beckenbauer.

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milivella:

> All the games:
> - take less than 1 minute to play
> - are open until the kick-off of the first match

OK, you can't join anymore. Time for some stats! :)

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3. Unsophisticated Prediction Contest

In the following table, where each NT is placed in between two
stages...

WINNING

FINAL

SEMI-FINALS

/\
Brazil
England
Netherlands
Spain
\/

QUARTER-FINALS

/\
Argentina
France
Germany
Italy
Ivory Coast
Paraguay
Portugal
Uruguay
USA
\/

2ND ROUND

/\
Algeria
Australia
Cameroon
Chile
Denmark
Ghana
Greece
Honduras
Japan
Mexico
New Zealand
Nigeria
North Korea
Serbia
Slovakia
Slovenia
South Africa
South Korea
Switzerland
\/

GROUP STAGE

....RSS collective mind thinks that the most underrated teams are:
10 GER
8 SRB
7 ARG, ESP
6 CHI, DEN, ITA, MEX

Closest: Clément an Juan Vazquez picked GER, SER, ARG and ESP.
Farthest: Google Beta User, Futbolmetrix, Jesus Petry and Real Mardin
didn't pick neither GER nor SER.

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4. Unsophisticated Overrated Team Spotting Contest

In the following table, where each NT is predicted to go out at a
given stage...

WINNING

FINAL

SEMI-FINALS

QUARTER-FINALS:
- Brazil
- England
- Netherlands
- Spain

2ND ROUND:
- Argentina
- France
- Germany
- Italy
- Ivory Coast
- Paraguay
- Portugal
- Uruguay
- USA

....RSS collective mind thinks that the most overrated teams are:
5 CIV
4 URU, USA
2 ENG
1 PAR, POR

Closest: Elko and MH picked CIV, URU, USA and ENG.
Further: well, everybody picked CIV! Futbolmetrix didn't pick USA,
milivella didn't pick URU.

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6. *Very* unsophisticated prediction contest

RSS collective mind picks the teams in the right column in the
following match-ups (the NT that goes further wins the match-up):

BRA 12-7 ESP
ENG 11-8 ARG [lowest difference, tied]
NED 11-7 GER
ITA 13-6 FRA
POR 15-4 CIV
SRB 15-4 CHI
MEX 13-6 USA
PAR 14-4 URU
CMR 13-5 GHA
RSA 11-8 NGA [lowest difference, tied]
DEN 15-4 AUS
SWI 16-2 GRE [highest difference]
KOR 13-5 JPN
SVK 13-5 SVN
ALG 12-6 HON
PRK 11-8 NZL [lowest difference, tied]

(the sum is not always 19 because not every RSSer predicted about
every match-up)

Closest: DK picked 14 teams that are in the right column (from the
left column he picked USA and NZL).
Furthest: El Kot picked just 5 teams that are in the right column; he
skipped 5 predictions, though. Jesper Lauridsen picked just 8 teams
that are in the right column, predicting about every match-up.

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milivella
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milivella:

What the Simulation Collective (see their sophisticated entry) would
have done in the unsophisticated games (using their prediction before
the beginning of the WC, of course):
> 1. Bet: who will win the WC? Brazil+Spain vs. the rest of the world

Rest of the world.

> 2. Bet: what will be the last stage reached by some major national
> teams?

> Brazil wins

They predicted round of 16.

> Spain round of 16
> England round of 16
> Argentina round of 16
> Germany round of 16
> France group
> Italy round of 16
> Portugal group
> Serbia group
> Côte d'Ivoire group
> Chile group
> Cameroon group
> Ghana group

They agreed with me in all the above predictions (after all, I used
Voros McCracken's prediction), so they would have not accepted the
bet.

> 3. Unsophisticated Prediction Contest: what teams are underrated?

They would have picked:
Mexico
Serbia
Chile
Denmark
Argentina
South Korea
Australia
Spain
Italy
Germany

After the group stage, they would be tied 10th, with - 6 points.

> 4. Unsophisticated Overrated Team Spotting Contest

They would have picked:
Cote d'Ivoire
Portugal

After the group stage, they would have 1 point, like everybody but
Elko and Michael.

> 6. *Very* unsophisticated prediction contest

They would have picked:
ESP > BRA
ENG > ARG
NED > GER
ITA > FRA
POR > CIV
SRB > CHI
USA > MEX
PAR > URU
CMR > GHA
NGA > RSA
DEN > AUS
GRE > SWI
KOR > JPN
SVK > SVN
HON > ALG
NZL > PRK

After the group stage, they would be tied 7th, with 3 points.

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milivella
From: milivella on
> What the Simulation Collective (see their sophisticated entry) would
> have done in the unsophisticated games (using their prediction before
> the beginning of the WC, of course):

> > 3. Unsophisticated Prediction Contest: what teams are underrated?
>
> They would have picked:
> Mexico
> Serbia
> Chile
> Denmark
> Argentina
> South Korea
> Australia
> Spain
> Italy
> Germany

On the other hand, if they would have been the gamemaster, they would
have made slightly different base predictions: they would have put
Ivory Coast between group and round of 16, not between round of 16 and
quarters.

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