From: shellenberg on
On 17 Giu, 12:03, FF <FAIRFOOTBALL....(a)domainsbyproxy.com> wrote:
> shellenberg wrote:
> > So many people hate Italy, It's only in soccer? I don' say all but
> > more than a 4 time winner deserve.
> > I read many websites all over the world, comments of ordinary people,
> > experts and so on, and they all show the same attitude.
> > What's the problem with Italy? And please don't say it's only for
> > "catenaccio".
>
> Because they are by far the team who get most out of Cheats and ref
> errors. No other team comes close. Which is obvious for all except
> those who, for whatever reasons, desperately look the other way.
> 2006 - win by obvious ref errors in the semi against Germany and in
> the final vs. France.
> 1982 - Gentile taking care of Maradona and Zico (among others)

Congratulations, very deep analysis, but if it is so easy why other
don't do the same? Are you saying that only italians can and want
cheat and win, mhhh... there must be someting wrong in this.
My be english want to learn how to cheat?

>
> Previous wins are old history but there are stories about those too,
> Mussolini and all that.

And Hitler say nothing?


From: FF on
shellenberg wrote:
> On 17 Giu, 12:03, FF <FAIRFOOTBALL....(a)domainsbyproxy.com> wrote:
> > shellenberg wrote:
> > > So many people hate Italy, It's only in soccer? I don' say all but
> > > more than a 4 time winner deserve.
> > > I read many websites all over the world, comments of ordinary people,
> > > experts and so on, and they all show the same attitude.
> > > What's the problem with Italy? And please don't say it's only for
> > > "catenaccio".
> >
> > Because they are by far the team who get most out of Cheats and ref
> > errors. No other team comes close. Which is obvious for all except
> > those who, for whatever reasons, desperately look the other way.
> > 2006 - win by obvious ref errors in the semi against Germany and in
> > the final vs. France.
> > 1982 - Gentile taking care of Maradona and Zico (among others)
>
> Congratulations, very deep analysis, but if it is so easy why other
> don't do the same? Are you saying that only italians can and want
> cheat and win, mhhh... there must be someting wrong in this.

They just are the best at it, historically, by some miles. These are
the facts. It brought them trophies, it didn't bring them respect and
sympathy.

> > Previous wins are old history but there are stories about those too,
> > Mussolini and all that.
>
> And Hitler say nothing?

We're talking about football, not the 36 Olympics. Germany didn't win
anything in Hitler's days.
From: shellenberg on
On 17 Giu, 14:05, FF <FAIRFOOTBALL....(a)domainsbyproxy.com> wrote:
> shellenberg wrote:
> > On 17 Giu, 12:03, FF <FAIRFOOTBALL....(a)domainsbyproxy.com> wrote:
> > > shellenberg wrote:
> > > > So many people hate Italy, It's only in soccer? I don' say all but
> > > > more than a 4 time winner deserve.
> > > > I read many websites all over the world, comments of ordinary people,
> > > > experts and so on, and they all show the same attitude.
> > > > What's the problem with Italy? And please don't say it's only for
> > > > "catenaccio".
>
> > > Because they are by far the team who get most out of Cheats and ref
> > > errors. No other team comes close. Which is obvious for all except
> > > those who, for whatever reasons, desperately look the other way.
> > > 2006 - win by obvious ref errors in the semi against Germany and in
> > > the final vs. France.
> > > 1982 - Gentile taking care of Maradona and Zico (among others)
>
> > Congratulations, very deep analysis, but  if it is  so easy why other
> > don't do the same? Are you saying that only italians can and want
> > cheat and win, mhhh... there must be someting wrong in this.
>
> They just are the best at it, historically, by some miles. These are
> the facts. It brought them trophies, it didn't bring them respect and
> sympathy.
>

Ok now I understand why we win so many Oscars:-)
honestly you can believe this are te fact?

> > > Previous wins are old history but there are stories about those too,
> > > Mussolini and all that.
>
> > And Hitler say nothing?
>
> We're talking about football, not the 36 Olympics. Germany didn't win
> anything in Hitler's days.

No soccer in germany in Hitler'e day?
And who win gold medal in 1936, wait...wiky... ahh and the award goes
to... Italy.

ps
i can live without your sympaty but can't understand
From: Insane Ranter on
On Jun 17, 8:05 am, FF <FAIRFOOTBALL....(a)domainsbyproxy.com> wrote:
> shellenberg wrote:
> > On 17 Giu, 12:03, FF <FAIRFOOTBALL....(a)domainsbyproxy.com> wrote:
> > > shellenberg wrote:
> > > > So many people hate Italy, It's only in soccer? I don' say all but
> > > > more than a 4 time winner deserve.
> > > > I read many websites all over the world, comments of ordinary people,
> > > > experts and so on, and they all show the same attitude.
> > > > What's the problem with Italy? And please don't say it's only for
> > > > "catenaccio".
>
> > > Because they are by far the team who get most out of Cheats and ref
> > > errors. No other team comes close. Which is obvious for all except
> > > those who, for whatever reasons, desperately look the other way.
> > > 2006 - win by obvious ref errors in the semi against Germany and in
> > > the final vs. France.
> > > 1982 - Gentile taking care of Maradona and Zico (among others)
>
> > Congratulations, very deep analysis, but  if it is  so easy why other
> > don't do the same? Are you saying that only italians can and want
> > cheat and win, mhhh... there must be someting wrong in this.
>
> They just are the best at it, historically, by some miles. These are
> the facts. It brought them trophies, it didn't bring them respect and
> sympathy.
>
> > > Previous wins are old history but there are stories about those too,
> > > Mussolini and all that.
>
> > And Hitler say nothing?
>
> We're talking about football, not the 36 Olympics. Germany didn't win
> anything in Hitler's days.

1 Germany 33 26 30 89
2United States 24 20 12 56
3 Hungary 10 1 5 16
4 Italy 8 9 5 22
5 Finland 7 6 6 19
6 France 7 6 6 19
7 Sweden 6 5 9 20
8 Japan 6 4 8 18
9Netherlands 6 4 7 17
10Great Britain 4 7 3 14

Medal count '36
Football.. Italy gold, Austria silver and Norway Bronze

In the 1932 no soccer...and Germany was 9th on the medal table.
From: Bob on
El Kot wrote:
> Bob wrote:
>> El Kot wrote:
>>> Bob wrote:
>>>> shellenberg wrote:
>>>>> So many people hate Italy, It's only in soccer? I don' say all but
>>>>> more than a 4 time winner deserve.
>>>>> I read many websites all over the world, comments of ordinary
>>>>> people, experts and so on, and they all show the same attitude.
>>>>> What's the problem with Italy? And please don't say it's only for
>>>>> "catenaccio".
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGAJYQ_aBx0
>>>>
>>>> I'd say this is a deliberate foul.
>>> Foul ?!? There was no contact, Malouda dived.
>>
>> troll.
>
> Newbie. :)

newbies know when they are trolled? :)