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From: Karamako on 17 Jun 2010 03:28 shellenberg a �crit : > So many people hate Italy, It's only in soccer? I don' say all but > more than a 4 time winner deserve. > I read many websites all over the world, comments of ordinary people, > experts and so on, and they all show the same attitude. > What's the problem with Italy? And please don't say it's only for > "catenaccio". Personnally, I love Italy, the Italians and their culture. I also somehow admire their knowledge of football : how to win with an inferior team (or /how to seem inferior/ ), intelligent players, etc. But I think they should get rid of all the simulation and provocation, totally needless.
From: Mart van de Wege on 17 Jun 2010 03:55 shellenberg <degregorio.gennaro(a)gmail.com> writes: > What's the problem with Italy? And please don't say it's only for > "catenaccio". What's the problem with water? And please don't say it's only that it's wet. Mart -- "We will need a longer wall when the revolution comes." --- AJS, quoting an uncertain source.
From: Winston Smith, American Patriot on 17 Jun 2010 04:02 On Jun 17, 10:28 am, "Karamako" <monsieur.karam...(a)nawadoo.fr> wrote: > shellenberg a écrit : > > > So many people hate Italy, It's only in soccer? I don' say all but > > more than a 4 time winner deserve. > > I read many websites all over the world, comments of ordinary people, > > experts and so on, and they all show the same attitude. > > What's the problem with Italy? And please don't say it's only for > > "catenaccio". > > Personnally, I love Italy, the Italians and their culture. I also somehow > admire their knowledge of football : how to win with an inferior team (or > /how to seem inferior/ ), intelligent players, etc. But I think they should > get rid of all the simulation and provocation, totally needless. I think Italy is among the worst of those feigning improper contact to draw fouls/cards/penalties. Not THE worst, but AMONG THE worst. They have far too much talent to resort to game momentum-destroying and -slowing activities like these. They should just get on with playing the game without the melodrama and theater. Teams like Portugal need to cheat like this, since they lack many more dimensions on their squad compared to the Italians. I like Italy's chances of winning this again in 2010, although they are far from my favorite (meaning, "I love them") team. And yes, I like Italian culture, Italian people, and the contributions that they have made to civilization over the many centuries. Including the playing of football.
From: FF on 17 Jun 2010 06:03 shellenberg wrote: > So many people hate Italy, It's only in soccer? I don' say all but > more than a 4 time winner deserve. > I read many websites all over the world, comments of ordinary people, > experts and so on, and they all show the same attitude. > What's the problem with Italy? And please don't say it's only for > "catenaccio". Because they are by far the team who get most out of cheating and ref errors. No other team comes close. Which is obvious for all except those who, for whatever reasons, desperately look the other way. 2006 - win by obvious ref errors in the semi against Germany and in the final vs. France. 1982 - Gentile taking care of Maradona and Zico (among others) Previous wins are old history but there are stories about those too, Mussolini and all that.
From: Manx Gunner on 17 Jun 2010 07:05
On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 02:38:30 +0100, Mehdi wrote... > Jealousy, cliched, outdated, baseless views and a lack of appreciation > of skill and technique. I like the fact that everyone hates Italian > football, it make winning all the more enjoyable. There are few things more cliched in such discussions as accusing those who dislike something you like of being jealous. Nice try. |