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From: Sid on 13 May 2010 12:12
I am thinking of a good rule base to run an office competition for the
world cup.

The contest should
1. Be 'simplish' (the sophisticated format will not work)
2. Include both group and knockout stages
3. be fire-and-forget (something that does not need contestants to
come back after the group stages)
4. Needs a little bit of effort (not just pick the overall winner)
5. Not too much effort (predict the score for every game)
6. Obviously a point system which covers all stages. (there may be a
minimum amount of money involved - say $10 an entry).

This is a merkin office with varying (low) level of football knowledge/
interest. As a secondary goal, I'd like to use this pool to make folks
a bit more interested in the whole tournament and some of the non-top
teams.

Any ideas?

Sid
From: Jesus Petry on 13 May 2010 12:29
On May 13, 1:12 pm, Sid <s...(a)nerte.net> wrote:
> I am thinking of a good rule base to run an office competition for the
> world cup.
>
> The contest should
> 1. Be 'simplish' (the sophisticated format will not work)
> 2. Include both group and knockout stages
> 3. be fire-and-forget (something that does not need contestants to
> come back after the group stages)
> 4. Needs a little bit of effort (not just pick the overall winner)
> 5. Not too much effort (predict the score for every game)
> 6. Obviously a point system which covers all stages. (there may be a
> minimum amount of money involved - say $10 an entry).
>
> This is a merkin office with varying (low) level of football knowledge/
> interest. As a secondary goal, I'd like to use this pool to make folks
> a bit more interested in the whole tournament and some of the non-top
> teams.
>
> Any ideas?

Copa do Mundo Maluca? :-)

Tchau!
Jesus Petry
From: Sid on 13 May 2010 12:34
On May 13, 11:29 am, Jesus Petry <jesuspe...(a)pop.com.br> wrote:
> On May 13, 1:12 pm, Sid <s...(a)nerte.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > I am thinking of a good rule base to run an office competition for the
> > world cup.
>
> > The contest should
> > 1. Be 'simplish' (the sophisticated format will not work)
> > 2. Include both group and knockout stages
> > 3. be fire-and-forget (something that does not need contestants to
> > come back after the group stages)
> > 4. Needs a little bit of effort (not just pick the overall winner)
> > 5. Not too much effort (predict the score for every game)
> > 6. Obviously a point system which covers all stages. (there may be a
> > minimum amount of money involved - say $10 an entry).

One rule that I forgot:

7. The competition should allow for unlimited entries. (i.e. a system
where someone
bids for and gets a team or a pool of teams would not work). We have
200-300 employees in this office.

>
> > This is a merkin office with varying (low) level of football knowledge/
> > interest. As a secondary goal, I'd like to use this pool to make folks
> > a bit more interested in the whole tournament and some of the non-top
> > teams.
>
> > Any ideas?
>
>  Copa do Mundo Maluca? :-)

That would be awesome, but I think any actual betting would be frowned
upon.:)

Also, rule 7 above.

Sid
From: Clément on 13 May 2010 13:40
On May 13, 1:12 pm, Sid wrote:
> I am thinking of a good rule base to run an office competition for the
> world cup.
>
> The contest should
> 1. Be 'simplish' (the sophisticated format will not work)
> 2. Include both group and knockout stages
> 3. be fire-and-forget (something that does not need contestants to
> come back after the group stages)
> 4. Needs a little bit of effort (not just pick the overall winner)
> 5. Not too much effort (predict the score for every game)

I usually like this one, with a different number of points awarded
depending on how close the prediction was. X points for a correct
prediction, X-Y for the correct winner + correct goal differential and
so on.

But if you find it too much work, maybe ask them to predict which
teams will advance after each phase?

To comply with rule #3 above, you may ask them to specify who advances
as 1st and 2nd in each group. In this case, they'll have the matchups
all the way until the final and can make all the predictions at once.

You can assign different scores for correct predictions, and maybe
less points if they get the team correctly but miss the group stage
rank. Maybe different stages could be worth different points.


(...)
> Any ideas?

There you go. Not sure it's any good, though.


Abraço,

Luiz Mello
From: Jesus Petry on 13 May 2010 13:47
On May 13, 1:34 pm, Sid <s...(a)nerte.net> wrote:
> On May 13, 11:29 am, Jesus Petry <jesuspe...(a)pop.com.br> wrote:
> >  Copa do Mundo Maluca? :-)
>
> That would be awesome, but I think any actual betting would be frowned
> upon.:)
>
> Also, rule 7 above.

I was half-joking, but the principle can actually be applied. Each
player could select eight teams, as long as no more than three have
ever won a WC, and at least one is from Africa, one is from Asia/
Oceania and one is from North/Central America. There would be plenty
of combinations for everyone to pick a different one, and the score
would be for instance, the sum of group phase points from your teams
plus a, say, five-point bonus for every playoff phase each of your
teams go through, that might be doubled for the champions.

Does this sound cool enough?

Tchau!
Jesus Petry
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