Venezuelan football fans are catching up (unfortunately).
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From: jvazquez on 3 Jun 2010 09:50 Venezuelan football fans are catching up (unfortunately). Last week at San Cristobal in the return leg of the national final Tachira-Caracas, with the presence of 1.000 supporters of Caracas in a 38.000 crowd, incidents after the end of the match accounted for some vehicles damaged of four out of three TV stations broadcasting (TVes, Meridiano TV and Sport Plus), a burned National Guard motorcycle and the Caracas fans retained for a few hours in the stadium. Twenty two buses carrying Caracas FC fans had to be escorted by the National Guard until the border of the state to avoid problems with the local fans. Next day, a journalist of Meridiano TV was assaulted out of his hotel (a few bruises) and the same hotel was besieged and threatened by locals fans. It was a lighter version of the outrageous 2000 year precedent, when the local fans burned the bus of Caracas FC in the very same pitch where they had beaten by Caracas FC to win the national tournament. Caracas FC fans were also involved recently in incidents against the fans of Flamengo and Universidad de Chile during matches of Copa Libertadores de America held at Caracas Estadio Olimpico. This progress in Venezuelan football is nothing to be proud of. Juan Vazquez
From: Real Mardin on 3 Jun 2010 10:26 On Jun 3, 2:50 pm, jvazq...(a)semavenca.com wrote: > > This progress in Venezuelan football is nothing to be proud of. > > Juan Vazquez No, absolutely not. Although don't be too hard on yourselves - is there an established football nation (and I include middle ranking nations) that *hasn't* suffered from hooliganism over the years? England, Scotland, Germany, Argentina, France, Holland, Belgium, Greece, Turkey, Russia and many of the East European countries have all suffered. Brazil has a problem - Jesus, did you see that episode of Real Football Factories International??? - they've been known to shoot each other over football feuds in Brazil. One question about the situation in Venezuela - is the violence organised like it is in parts of Western Europe or do you think its more heat of the moment stuff? RM
From: jvazquez on 3 Jun 2010 12:07 On 3 jun, 09:50, jvazq...(a)semavenca.com wrote: I hate when I make these miskates ;-) > vehicles damaged of four out of three TV stations broadcasting (TVes, .... of three out of four... > where they had beaten by Caracas FC to win the national tournament. .... where they had been beaten... JV
From: jvazquez on 4 Jun 2010 09:25 On 3 jun, 10:26, Real Mardin <real_mar...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > On Jun 3, 2:50 pm, jvazq...(a)semavenca.com wrote: > > > > > This progress in Venezuelan football is nothing to be proud of. > > > Juan Vazquez > > No, absolutely not. Although don't be too hard on yourselves - is > there an established football nation (and I include middle ranking > nations) that *hasn't* suffered from hooliganism over the years? > > England, Scotland, Germany, Argentina, France, Holland, Belgium, > Greece, Turkey, Russia and many of the East European countries have > all suffered. Brazil has a problem - Jesus, did you see that episode > of Real Football Factories International??? - they've been known to > shoot each other over football feuds in Brazil. > > One question about the situation in Venezuela - is the violence > organised like it is in parts of Western Europe or do you think its > more heat of the moment stuff? Well, I would say they are not organized for violence, although they are sometimes very agressive. They have well organized "Frentes" by neighbourhoods of the city, in charge of bringing banners, rags, flags, unmbrellas, calculating machines or cashier paper rolls, Baygon cans for making small flame- throwers, beer for selling to members and friends outside of the stadia, etc. There is also a "band" with a drums and a trumpet which gives the tune (they sing terribly out of tune anyway). But there are no organized gangs with weapons, guns, knifes or the like. Regards, JV
From: jvazquez on 4 Jun 2010 15:27
> no organized gangs with weapons, guns, knifes or the like. knives |